joining me now, umi salah, who is the mission director at the dream defenders. what is the goal when activists shut down a campaign event like they did with bernie sanders and certainly as they attempted to do with jeb bush. >> i think we heard clearly from the women activists who shut down the event. the goal was to elevate the concerns and needs of the people who have been oppressed and marginalized. i think yet's disruption was a perfect opportunity to elevate the state jeb bush left. he increased mandatory minimums, he increased the harsh penalties for nonviolent drug offenders. he privatized the entire state he ran through our educational system privatized prisons, decreased public sector jobs. this is an awesome opportunity. you have to -- we owe them a debt of gratitude to remind people about the state that jeb bush governed for eight years and left in ruined. >> what mr. salah just said is not discussed or under discussed when it comes to the black lives matter movement. it's seen as a petulant group of people that are narcissistic and want their way. it