think what we need to do is look at this and hear what the current state of things are, and do the umm ka, rational balance. i think we should look for possibly early november , but the conversation has started. i spoke with john crew, formerly of the aclu, who was very successful last time in reaching an m.o.u. with the f.b.i. they'd have to agree to it, but there is no draft of an m.o.u. this is the beginning of a conversation, so that's my suggestion. >> commissioner hamasaki: and i would thank vice president mazzucco, as well, because my phone was ringing off the hook, as well, and set off frustration in the community. >> commissioner mazzucco: commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: rightfully. i think they were able to bring to attention at chief scott's first meeting, we weren't in compliance of our own policy. it was subject to interpretation of what the policy actually meant, but i think a town hall meeting is a great idea, and they can raise their concerns to all of us before we enter and sign into an m.o.u. so what i'd like to say, i already mentioned two items that i'd