un futuro mejor. it provides free tax education and workshops designed to help latinos. emmanuel diaz, h&r block, multicultural initiatives manager based in brooklyn, jeffrey melo, coordinator for the hispanic access foundation here in new york, have been giving us an education. i find this -- well, you tell me if it's common -- people still using fake social security numbers? >> they do. they do that in order to work. >> to work? >> basically, in order for you to work, you need a social security number. >> of course. >> so, people are using what we call trecos, or fake social security numbers, in order to work. we really don't recommend that to do, but people are doing it. >> yes. what logic do you tell them [chuckles] other than it's illegal, that you shouldn't be using someone else's number or a number? >> they need to basically, you know, stop doing that, you know. it just could bring a lot of recer-- recer-- >> repercussions. >> right. >> but it's important to establish a real one for the future. >> we know why they're doing it, take a tax identification number, as emmanuel suggested earlier. but we do encourage them to use a tax identification number because should there be an immigration reform someti