. >> reporter: unapologetic, unabashed, mcginnis agreed to sit down with us. >> thanks for having me. >> reporter: you said this a speech last year after a clash with antifa, violence doesn't feel good, justified violence feels great are you inciting violence? >> no. justified violence is protecting some woman who is getting beaten up. >> reporter: but you've also said, "i want violence. i want punching in the face." >> i think the proud boys do enjoy a good brawl. >> reporter: yes or no, are the proud boys racists? >> no. >> misogynists? >> no. >> reporter: is the proud boys a hate group? >> no. >> reporter: hipster nazis? >> no. >> reporter: extremists? >> no. >> reporter: so what do you guys do? you just get together and you drink? >> 99% is meeting in a bar once a month and drinking beer just like everyone else. >> reporter: what's the other 1%? >> escorting conservative speakers to and from their cars or wherever they're going. >> reporter: a conservative media personality himself, mcinnes formerly of vice media founded the group in 2016. >> i got it. we are called the proud boys

is it simply because the media has such unabashed scorn and viscer viscer visceral hatred, the man, and his politics that they cannot tain themselves? >> you're exactly right. they fought endlessly. and there was a government shutdown over christmas during one of those negotiations. and on the front page of the magazine, it was the newt who stole christmas. the republicans fought in the '90s. and donald trump right now is doing the correct thing, taking a hard line to fulfill a campaign promise that will make our country stronger and safer. and finally republicans are like, oh wait, we can fight again? we don't have to just pass these endless continuing resolutions about progress. this is a core campaign promise and i'm so glad to see the president fulfilling it the best that he can. >> when he actually does compromise and achieves something, and he did most recently, the criminal justice reform act that was passed into law once he signs it, it's sort of buried in most newspapers. the new york times grudgingly said, okay, he actually did something good. i know it broke their heart to ha

. >> but young woman, you may look like -- we may look like we are just unafraid and unabashed. we are not. and you just have to chug ahead, fake it until you make it. that's with the good old boys say. >> i think there has can be a motivator. i don't mean necessarily safe in a religious sense i mean faith in a belief in what is possible. and i think a lot of the times, particularly in the entertainment industry people are motivated by fear. you're afraid that it's not going to do well, that you have gone out on a limb. there is a lot of confidence that radiates from that. and a belief in what we are capable of, especially when we get a team together and ask without help. and i think when i hear that little fear voice, kind of like shift over, and sort of get my belief and my positivity and even if it's not perfect, it can turn out. >> have any of you ever taken a risk that was a bad idea? and then, what did you learn from that bad idea? it still helped you move forward, but sometimes risks don't work out. >> when i transitioned from goldman, i realized it's not the risk, i saw

has their unabashed scorn and visceral hatred for the man totally obscured their judgment and commonense? >> absolutely, and your book was fantastic by the way. one thing i wanted to mention about your book and that you touch on, we are trying to draw parallels to watergate into president trump. you know like me the worst type of client that you can have is one who won't tell you anything and hides in secret. that was richard nixon, this guy taped himself in secret. his tweets are out there for the entire public to see. he is fully transparent. i think as a lawyer, that's part of what drives people nuts. they are not used to his transparency and i do think ultimately though for a legal reason, this is never going to get to high crimes and misdemeanors and i really think our audience should be interested in what mueller's report looks like and compare it to the road to watergate report and the ken starr report. >> password for you, i have about 30 seconds. >> i think you are exactly right and i think the democrats know that. that's why they have already drawn and are publicizing their

it is the unabashed used-car salesman tenure and somehow mistaken for entirely different trades and ambition. nixon said at the end of the address the government will listen in new ways and then he got into his bulletproof magazine and kicked off the parade from the capital of the white house have taken within a literal stones throw. it's the corner of pennsylvania and 15th street from the bleachers the intersection from the president's vanguard for the turn of passing the vast securitbasqueactivity court of e house. they were knocking at everyone's high collared coats at the long angled corridor the diagonal that was from one tower to anothecolor toanother and it wae very police motorcycles and secret service agents trotted alongside. the protesters posted up along the parade route three main locations throughout the week they gathered from what was being called the counter inaugural they put together prison sentences in illinois on the conspiracy riot charges and after chicago the mood of the antiwar movement had soured. violence and confrontation are the themes now, he would write in his

i want to shift over to facebook, because you have been an unabashed supporter of mark zuckerberg and facebook and now there's a lawsuit. washington, d.c. is filing suit against facebook saying it violated a d.c. rule and it all comes back to this cambridge analytica scandal where millions of facebook users' data was compromised, given away without their permission to this cambridge analytica operation that then used it for political purposes. what happens with this lawsuit and do you see it sort of domino affecting everywhere else and other states coming in on this lawsuit? >> so i'm always going to be supportive of the entrepreneur. i mean, think of what zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg have done. this is an extraordinary business. it does amazing things. it's incredibly entertaining. it spreads good cheer and when sometimes the news is bad, usually your instagram is good. it spreads good cheer and a lot of good information around the world. they've done an extraordinary -- liz: but they've got to fix it, tim. >> and you know, i feel like, you know, when you sign up for one of those t