really sustainable and it was really great and was wonderful, but it was insanely expensive and unaccessible. so i'm curious how you can make those-- like, how to make those funds accessible to those communities for everyone because often those are the least accessible to those that need it. >> i'll give you an example from new orleans that i thought was pretty successful. so this is a project that involved city residents in collecting stories and data about flooding in their city. and they were able to do two things with that data. that one is they actually contributed back to the national weather service and the weather service used it to update their hydro logical models, how they predicted where flooding was going to occur. i think that's sort of cool because i'm a letter geek. the second thing is that they actually went to city council and were able to demonstrate that their region was prone to flooding and amend an rfp that the city was releasing for plans to redevelop areas to include their neighborhood. and it hadn't been included before. that's a very small-scale example, but i thin