or justice breyer. [ laughter ] but as far as i'm concerned, it would have been -- to say it was unamendable because i think a supreme court depending on its make-up of course would determine whether or not it was appropriate. the amendment was appropriate. so i think if you had chief justice tourny, which we did at the time, no friend of lincoln or the north, i think he would've ruled as he did in writing the majority opinion in dred scott that you could say it was unamendable. so i think it's in the make-up of the court. if the challenge like the price cases came later in the war in a 5-4 decision even with chief justice tawny still on the court, but it came much later than manassas determined that what the president did in the conduct of the war was legal, i think with lincoln having the votes in the supreme court, they would have found that it was not appropriate to say the constitution or that amendment was -- could not be amended or could not be ruled against by a court of appeals. >> and by the -- craig? >> i just wanted to add, i think that's absolutely true. and from a legal point o

i wanted to complem -- compliment carl, like the last unamended. don't know if he had aspirations for politics, but he did an absolutely wonderful job on that particular documentary. i have a question. he helped me understand some things that i did not understand about patents. about 11 years ago, there was a little item that i tried to invent, only to find out it had a patent almost 30 years ago, and the person who received the patent never brought it to market. then something a very similar happened -- i don't know if it is related -- there was a corporate name i filed for, and there was a lady who held that in whenever done anything with it. but was willing to sell it to me. i wonder if the two things are at all related. again, carl, you did a wonderful job. you are an exceptional young man. host: let's go to dan brenner to get a response. guest: if there was a patent, not all patents are brought to market. the application is filed. if it is granted by the examiner, if it is more than 20 years, it will not be in the public domain. the owner of t

i wanted to complem -- compliment carl, like the last unamended. i don't know if he had aspirations for politics, but he did an absolutely wonderful job on that particular documentary. i have a question. he helped me understand some things that i did not understand about patents. about 11 years ago, there was a little item that i tried to invent, only to find out it had a patent almost 30 years ago, and the person who received the patent never brought it to market. then something a very similar happened -- i don't know if it is related -- there was a corporate name i filed for, and there was a lady who held that in whenever done anything with it. but was willing to sell it to me. i wonder if the two things are at all related. again, carl, you did a wonderful job. you are an exceptional young man. host: let's go to dan brenner to get a response. guest: if there was a patent, not all patents are brought to market. the application is filed. if it is granted by the examiner, if it is more than 20 years, it will not be in the public domain. the owner of