that sense of collective anxiety and fear about the future that, in many profound ways, is very unamerican, because we are such a deeply optimistic country at heart. >> schieffer: ron chernow, you wrote this massive book about george washington. it is just a fascinating book. >> thank you, bob. >> schieffer: you heard what arianna said. you heard what bob woodward just said. we're into some tough business here right now. and the country is looked in a gridlock. i have to say, in all the time i've been in washington, i've never seen it this bad. but i know there have been other periods. are we seeing something new here, or is this more normal than we'd like to admit? >> americans like to look back on the founding era as the golden age. there are good reasons and bad reasons for doing that. indeed, the founding era had these men who were brilliant and erudite and fearless. we had in a country of three million people simultaneously active in american politics a benjamin franklin, a george washington, a thomas jefferson, a james madison, a john adams, and alexander hamilton and a john jay. we

if you do it on race and religion it is a bad idea, unamerican and it will get thrown out in court. we know this from the japanese internment during world war ii. i'm going to the airport to see my mom and i'll get patted down. how much do i tip the guy? i can't remember. we've come to this pass for the strangest reason. we have scanners that show people's genitals and therefore they chain the pat-down ruless. the technology is leading to this behavior which is foolish and has nothing to do with [ talking over each other ] david dave the fact is there are some counties, including san francisco thinking of prosecuting some of these tsa officials if they pat down too aggressively. >> that's preposterous. we have servicemen and women sacrificing their lives for our safety. to think we can't inconvenience ourselves a little is offensive and pathetic. >> have you been patted down? >> yeah, i've been through the airport security many times. >> david: have you been patted? touched in the genitals? >> if i were to be touched, i have no problem. it is a minor inconvenience compared to what o

i think people have hit the tipping point where they're saying it's unamerican.ting my civil rights and my rights to privacy and that we have to find a different way. >> warner: quickly to you, mr. irvin. if she's right and the outcry continues and builds at some point does the government have to be responsive in some other way? >> well, i think the some other way is as i said developing this technology which is automated technology so that a person does not have to determine whether you've got an explosive on you. we've got to develop this technology urgently but in the meantime the key point here is that most people don't have to endure the physical patdown.ç that's what really is at the root of most of this. body scannersç are safe. they're effective. most people would choose them. i think after we get through this holiday season, people will see that for themselves at the airports. most people will choose the whole body imagers. i think they'll see they're safe and effective. the number of people who choose the patdowns will be very small indeed. >> warner:

at one point you said it was just downright unamerican. on reflection are you glad you said that? >> the interesting thing is i think it got sort of distorted because it wasn't that they were being harsh that i disagreeing with. i didn't like the language. i didn't think the president or his people should say something like putting the boot heel on the throat of a business. i didn't like that. it wasn't that i thought that we shouldn't be tough. i do think we should be tough. if they broke the law they should be punished, et cetera, et cetera. they should be responsible. they should pay for the clean- you. but i don't think an american president should be talking about putting the boot heel on the throat of a corporation because it sends the wrong signal that the government is the enemy somehow of business. we need to always recognize that one in ten businesses succeed. we need to do everything we can to encourage business because that's where the jobs are created. >> schieffer: another statement that you made that kind of caught my eye was after one of the mine accidents down in

. >> this is great you made fun for saying julia is unamerican for saying he's swedish.stralian. >> i believe -- . >> no. he's australian. >> he tried to pick up a chick in sweden. >> i neent say didn't he sexual assault a swedish girl? >> yes. that is what you neent say. >> sarcastic. >> joe, you said you think person of the year should be you. and you've never used at and t. >> i just went back to at and t. >> you'll be pining for sprint soon. >> it's like when i call you when i'm drunk at 3:00 in the morning? >> bad decision. bad decision. but then, i go back to the bad decision at the end of the night. >> yes. >> and greg, you said you think it's going to be the miners. >> yes. >> they got trapped in a mine. anyone can get trapped in a mine. >> yeah. but it was a story of perseverance it should be the people who rescued them. >> better point. andy. way to shoot me down. >> the miners just got lucky and happened to be in the right place at the right time. >> i don't know if you can call that luck, sir. >> you can if you're a pre-vert. >> exactly. >> and greg, you said

military pry by national, when you read it not once, but four times, it is not only unsafe, but it is unamerican. enough about bush and the shoe bomber. let's talk about this case, andy. i will say that i am not a legal expert. but i have watched "a few good men" a few good times. and a military tribunal is awesome. lots of amazing dialogue. lots of references to walls and people that are on top of them watching. they are doing jobs you can't do. i would rather watch that. >> it is a great point, but i will pretend i'm an only buds man. -- ambudsman. >> andrea has on fish nets. >> good . >> i will be like tourettes the whole show long. >> well said. >>> from courts to airports, is opting out optimal? as the scrap over tsa pat downs continues, one airport thinks that a company that is private is better for everybody's privates. in orlando, the birthplace of the question mark, airport officials are disoog opt out of tsa screenings and want to choose from one of five approved private screening firms to take over. says the airport authority's director, you are going to get better service at a better

false lay town hall attendees of carrying somewhat tick s, saying drowning out opposing views is unamericanard theme with nancy pelosi. remember when she said this about states who crackdown on illegal immigrants. >> sean: i can proudly say i wouldn't want anyone world to be the democrats' leader in the new congress. i mean it. nancy pelosi, welcome back. joining me the author of 18 acres. in full light of what we discussed in the last segment, -- >> someone is in a glass house tonight. >> your book has the first female president whose husband is having an affair with a reporter. >> sean: nancy pelosi, welcome back, i couldn't be happier. >> this is great news for the gop. the end of the day she and her party receive an "f" on november 2nd. they are willing to put the same leadership back into power. which shows we are going to continue to see infighting. continue to see disagreement and finger-pointing within their party this is saying they are not willing to change and adapt to what people want. >> sean: they even said in the "washington post" they don't want to pivot they still believe t

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because we haven't seen it and now you're seeing -- you're bashing the tea party, he called them unamerican, pelosi did and so forth. well, now the american people are speaking, in my opinion, and i don't see a problem with that. >> ok. thank you. as you're commenting lisa also had this comment. david, i'll let you respond to john's view and lisa who says, i think time will show the tea party to be an ideological trend as opposed to an actual long-term, quote, movement. i think that she's right. >> i think that that is probably right. although even as an ideological movement, it's a bit spread out. it's not dish mean, yes, they believe -- they have a core, they believe in a smaller government and an ti washington vein. but there's a libertarian streak to it. there is a culturally conservative streak to it that i think the tea party is more or less blended over. i -- there was some discussion earlier this evening about whether the disgruntled tea partiers who might get annoyed with the new republican leadership they're trying to work with would get so discouraged that they'd find a different