nothing seems more unamerican than the irs's inable to close down a business or bankrupt individuals nvicted of a crime. it turns the principle of innocent until proven guilty on its head. a military veteran is waiting to get $60,000 back. e-mack, should ending the irs's power of confiscation of fund be a part of tax reform? >> yes, because the irs oversight of this has not been so state of the art. that small business guy lost his wife and went bankrupt in the midst of this whole thing. it's a really bad practice to take money on just suspicion. they took $17 million just over 231 cases at the irs. the congress has a lo the to do with obamacare and-- >> mike, what do you think? >> i agree with everything that e-mack said, but don't make it part of the current tax reform. i don't want it bogged down like health care did. david: bruce, we have this principle, an american justice system that you are innocent until proven guilty. the irs doesn't conform to that. >> yeah, i don't really agree with this and i think it's sort of akin it drug cases where property is being seized and so forth