we need more art, more story tellers, more unapology gettic ally committed to telling stories of socialtice and fedom. we're at a time there's a lack of those. i think the attempt to merge the arts with a corporate approach to the arts has silenced so many of those voices. rain rents and difficulty of living in urban areas has decreased the ability of artists to congregate and to live. struggling artists. this is tough to be a artist committed to social justice issues but believe we need them more than now. >> you're on the front line of the fight how do you sustain your hope? >> i think i am sustained in great -- in great depth by my family, my family has been committed to activism and social justice. by an awareness how long this fight has been. we will not win it overnight. when i look at the incredible strength and fortitude people have during difficult times i feel it is my responsibility to continue to advance that. if they could push through those times i have to push through these times. i feel at the end of the y if you cannot be helpful, if you cannot feel a more humane world