so it's called citizen democracy and is a bunch of profiles of an elect, unappointed individuals who went out and created things like major legislation because of their action. >> host: i teach political science. they almost have been one of the number one major people. i don't assume they added a technical school. or a value added major because they get their technical education. they get the social science foundation. i get media and then of course in the congress, campaigns and elections. i keep my finger in the american government course. we have a required government course. the congress with sunset was going on at the naval academy when ollie north doesn't understand control of the military. and so in the budget hearing, they required us to create a required current government court. but i was psyched about 75% anyway, pinelli teach 100%. i like each not of course because it's not only traditional command we teach the ethics of public service, the 80 when you get check, when you're in the military, there's an extra responsibility on you that normal individual doesn't have. >> h

he mentioned the problem of long-term unappointed averages remind them in the last two years of the last government, long-term unemployed almost double so i think we should hear about that before we get election. in terms of helping young people it is also noticeable that under this government 900,000 people have started apprenticeships, and we are reforming our schools and welfare system so that it pays for people to get those jobs. we face enormous economic challenges in this country. nobody doubts that. we have to we both our economy because the state sector was too big, the private sector was too small. what has happened is 1 million new jobless -- private sector jobs. we've got a huge amount more to do but reform welfare, reform our schools, and the private sector and britain can be aware in the global race. >> i would just say to him on long-term unemployment there are more people out of work for longer than at any time for two decades. that is happening on his watch. i want to point to one group in particular losing their jobs directly. a year ago, he told me, and ago, there is no

national policy called citizen democracy and it's a bunch of profiles of individuals unelected, unappointed individuals who went out and created things like major legislation because of their actions. >> what do you teacher at the naval academy? >> i teach political silent. i'm proud of the fact that for the last 30 years we have been the number one and people don't assume that a technical school. they get their technical education plus science education. i teach media politics and campaigns and elections and i have my finger and the american government part. we have acquired a government course where the congress and his wisdom said what is going on at the naval academy when ollie north doesn't understand control of the military and so in the budget hearings they required us to create a required course. now we teach 100% and i like keeping that has as traditional government course but we also teach the ethics of governmental service. when you're in the military there are extra responsibilities on you that a normal individual doesn't have. >> one more project you are involved in. you are in

you know that 800,000 more women are unappointed day than when barack obama came in the office?nd the poverty rate for women is actually higher today than it has been in 17 years to . megyn: would you make about that equal pay for women? the lilly ledbetter act was passed people can sue for unequal pay. only 35 women, or something like that, have taken advantage of it. how does make its way into the debate? >> what are you or romney or obama going to do about equal pay for me? >> it was a very tragic situation that happened a lilly ledbetter. but most people don't know that. again, it is part of this idea that we are going to turn them into this monster that hates women. one who doesn't want women to have equal pay. that is the suggestion. i think the bigger question is how did this become a question when you only have 11 questions. certainly, this ground has been covered. megyn: or a 23 million people in the country and we devoted that much time. do not we are fighting for the life of the country here, and she spent all this time on lilly ledbetter. most voters don't know about

he mentioned the problem of long-term unappointed averages remind them in the last two yearof the last government, long-term unemployed almost double so i think we should hear about that before we get election. in terms of helping young people it is also noticeable that under this government 900,000 people have started apprenticeships, and we are reforming our schools and welfare system so that it pays for people to get those jobs. we face enormous economic challenges in this country. nobody doubts that. we have to we both our economy because the state sector was too big, the private sector was too small. what has happened is 1 million new jobless -- private sector jobs. we've got a huge amount more to do but reform welfare, reform our schools, and the private sector and britain can be aware in the global race. >> i would just say to him on long-term unemployment there are more people out of work for longer than at any time for two decades. that is happening on his watch. i want to point to one group in particular losing their jobs directly. year ago, he tld me, and ago, there is no re

unappointed does have a cost. this would add probably a point, a point and have on unemployment rate. is that good? i can't imagine anyone would argue it's a good thing. not in the short term. and so i think you have to look at this and then decide, in those terms and and decide how do we minimize those kinds of consequences and achieve less federal spending and more growth in the private sector. i'd love to have that discussion. >> go ahead. >> the premise underlying your question, forgiving, is precisely wrong. jobs are a cost of government spending, not a benefit. it's as counterintuitive as that may seem. why? supposed president obama would say my energy policies would increase the use of high quality steel. that would be great for the steel producers. and for the steelworkers. but for the economy as a whole that the cause because the resources used to produce the steel would no longer be available for other uses. that's a classic definition of opportunity costs. similarly, government spending that consumes la