with making money available that's low interest is probablyÑi the -- it seemed to work with the unb programou know, it's -- a lot of times people just don't have a conclude, so, you know, it -- especially in the soft story and the cement buildings it's an educational process that we have to deal with. >> i think money available. when i talk to people they always say, who's going to pay for this? the private building owner says if the city is paying for this? if the city can say we're going to provide you with financing and allow you to do it, being able to answer that question -- >> yeah. we have to have a conversation about the right split between landlords and tenants and come up with something fair. >> how long does it take us to come up with the unb legislative? you were part of that. >> sb 547 which is the state senate bill that mandate thd first came out in 1985. prop a, which was the 300 million-dollar funding was in '89, so it was a four-year discussion between the state mandating it. but there was years of earlier discussion with kathleen harrington and the owners agreeing to the s