in for mike, which is a pretty venal -- they're in for money, which is a pretty venal as well as unbased charge. >> colby? >> this week we have seen natural events with the earthquake and hurricane coming this way. in the case of climate change, if you try to dispute that and call that into question, you are part of the flat-earth society as far as i'm concerned. >> evan? >> pat moynihan had a great line about how men are entitled to their own opinions and not their own fax r people -- but not their own facts. people have always believed the things that are not true. that is creeping more into our system, where people believing in climate change have steadily gone down. for the first time, it truly is a worrisome thing. there is bogus science out there that is dangerous. >> about three months ago, mitt romney said he believes there is getting warmer, and that siemens contribute, but on wednesday he says he is not too sure -- and that humans contribute, and on wednesday he says he's not too sure and we should not spend billions of dollars on things we're not sure about. >> he is right abo