gettleman was asked if he thought they'd take unbridge to a potential franchise tag. >> josh is a pro. he's a pro. and no. not at all. because i'm not. >> the eastern conference playoff race is as tight as they come. the hornets are 3.5 games back of third place boston. tonight's date with indiana is particularly important. the two teams met two weeks ago. the first of three regular season importance. a win >> we're going to have to bounce back tonight. >> imagine your marcus page returning from a broken hand to two maryland in early december. he was primed for a new year. but recently his struggles have become more apparent. coming in the loss to duke when the offense moved away. and page couldn't hit a shot. but he's a senior and a leader and handling a disappointing season as well as you can expect and takes great pride in being a leader for what's been a spectacular season. >> it's opinion a fun ride. although it hasn't been exactly the way i thought it would be. but i have no issues with it and that's just life sometimes. >> big one for your heels tomorrow. they face uva on the r

we will see unbridged taking about the campaign the other size has run and a lot of false modesty aboutpaign is doing. should be a great debate, chris. >> it has been wild. you are so right about that last point. alex seitz-wald, thank you. now to former head of the white house media department. good to see you, louis, how are you today? >> good to see you, chris. thanks for having me on. >> who would know this late in the campaign things would take on outsized importance. there is a lot of tension, certainly in both campaigns, tonight and what will happen. what are are you looking for? what do you think will happen on that stage? >> we think it will be an exciting debate. you saw last night they have a lot of energy. this is what we expect to happen at this stage of an election. voters pay attention and they start to get engaged. i want you to focus in on just one number that i think is interesting. two democrats, bernie sanders and hillary clinton drove out almost as much turnout, 171,000 people in iowa, as 11 republicans. so to us that speaks to the fact that there is a lot of energy

that is an unbridgeable gap and that ought to be a cut off and i am not sure that claiming number two if you get a metal, that is what counts and if you are way behind in the fold, then you are really in crisis. >> charles, what kind of pressure would be on say john kasich to get out of the race. we got a tweet from a campaign manager. the nomination battle is down to the final four. john kasich headed to favorable states. only governor and chlor path and no more outspent. does not sound like a man getting ready to stand down. >> no, i don't think he is. i think he is if heñr believes there has to be a consolidation of the so- called mainstream. other people call it establishment wing and it will hurt the party. with him he runs on a shoe string and all he needs is a plane ticket. i think he has no chance and delusional in thinking that he might. with bush and carson. i think bush, it is a matter of honor. he's been hard on trump. he obviously thinks that trump would be a disaster for the party. and the best thing he can do to defeat him is to leave the race, whether he will or not i