a pretty modest variance, and to not grant it would practically make that lot and buildable -- unbuildable in the sense that you're not going to generate any income and what was paid for the property. if you were to do those kinds of numbers, it is probably out of line. at any rate, that is not part of the consideration. i intend to uphold the variance. commissioner hwang: this is a stark image. this is the one i kept asking about. because it does -- it is a little bit striking in 2d. we are looking at a very challenging space here in which to build a property. i can relate. i can sort of empathize with the appellant's concern with having this huge thing right next to it. but i am -- there are limitations to the space in which to build something. my inclination is next here. -- mixed here. i am having some difficulty really. whereas the setback issue is a very important one for the appellant, it seems like the nature and size and style will be addressed at the building of. -- building level. i am not sure where i am going here. i will have to keep thinking about it. commissioner garcia: pl

francisco says and the building department takes this position that there is no one buildable lot -- unbuildable lot. i wonder if this is realistic. >> if money is an issue, we can develop solutions that will mitigate the impact. that a solution can be eliminating the hill, that can eliminate the problem. or build a structure right into the hill so there is no longer an exposed face or bold enough of iraq together so that it acts as a big buttress to prevent further movement. -- or hold enough of the rock together so that it acts as a big buttress. we are allowing the wall of the building to act as a retaining structure. there was a time when we did not get any. there was an epic one before in 1982. we brought with us and rainfall charge. >> you were saying that this is somehow correlated to rainfall. this goes from 1914 until 2006. it is the red line in the backgrounds which are the annual rainfall from each year is plotted on here. you can see it varies all over the place. if you take an average, the average is a thin gray line. that does not give you a feel for what the rainfall really is. th