you have to go all the way to the back unchained unction. >> it seemed a as if there was a time when criticizing judges and justices were something the people were careful about. they didn't want to undermine the system. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> newt gingrich by questioning the authority of the courts was going back to jefferson -- >> john, what has changed, however two what has changed is the massive amounts of money into judicial elections. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] it had already been done, before citizens united. particularly in a variety of states. the reality is, as much as i laud justice o'connor's efforts, she has had a conversion. she was actually part of the problem. and she has found that she has been -- [talking over each other] [talking over each other] -- she has come back in and it is wonderful. however, i do want to -- i do want to point out that is not just the elections themselves. there are ways to conduct elections that can deal with some of the problems that you talked about. nonpartisan elections, public fu