it makes us uncompetitive. we've got a jobs problem in this country. we need to have a competitive country and tax reform would be a big part of that. we also need to have entitlements still there for our children and our grandchildren, and at the rate they're going, bob, they're not going to be there. >> schieffer: i mean, obviously there are going to be some in the tea party, especially in the house, that are not going to go for what you have just talked about. i noticed this morning lindsey graham, senator graham of south carolina is saying he thinks the deal as he understands it now may be moving in the wrong direction. are you convinced you can sell enough republicans just in the senate on this to get it passed? >> well, i'm sure there will be both democrats and republicans who in the end find the agreement wanting in one way or another. but i believe there will be a strong bipartisan support for this. again, this deal has not been finalized yet, but i think we're very, very close to something that i could comfortably recommend to my members and i

competing in the world it's not have meditation for two hundred years it's not that americans are uncompetitive it's the world trading system is corrupt and skewed against us all we want is american entrepreneurs access give us access to foreign markets and entrepreneurial ism in this country will explode you're talking about begging or they have already begun ships china and begging vietnam if you want if you want to do something here in the united states then talk to your members of congress and say we want the hamilton plan back we you know it's a high tariff on all of the american way actually i don't they have in brazil and that's what they have in the in the in these guys really have a little that's what they have in japan because i have a new way to assume they have these are many will not the u.k. and germany and japan and japan is a very low tariff market it's just a cultural barriers right through importing cried oh absolutely japan i know it's a very big trouble but you know we need to do it just it's not interesting and i think that we agree on a lot of things i mean we want the rig

start collecting sales tax, it makes them stop working with california businesses and make it uncompetitiveor to us operate in california. >> this challenge is to get californians to understand this is not a new tax. there has been a line on this state income tax form for years for youth tax. sales tax you didn't pay for online purchases, hardly anyone fills it out, though. >> and there is a woman safe at home and getting rest after a harrowing 13 hours spent floating in san francisco bay. her trouble began last night when the sail of her wind surf broke off near foster city. her husband got worried when she didn't return to shore and called 911. and rescuers received the bay and didn't find her until 6:00 this morning. >> she feels okay. and she's like, you know, she's feeling better. you know? by tomorrow, i think she'll be back to her usual self. she's lps. >> wind surf something. >> i don't think for a few days. >> just taking a few days off there. this video shows her being raised up in the rescue helicopter. >> she was in good spirits. surprising having been in the water almost 13 hou

clearly the commission will make much more competitive lines than the last very uncompetitive map drawnunder another process but might it have been more competitive? what's the way the commission makes those sort of decisions how best to represent communities of interest, how best to represent competition? >> competition is actually not a requirement of the california constitution. so what is thought will happen is that the instead of trying to divvy up these communities in such a way as to work against competition drawing just sort of on a base value neutral sort of criteria, you're going to see more competition emerge from that and david can probably back me up on this that is what we expect to see out of it. so it is sort of like competition emerging from some of the criteria not actually imposing competition as a requirement. however there are, arizona does that and washington actually, there are two states that have a requirement to create competitive districts. so if you want to, and there are some states that do this, you can explicitly put this into the state constitution. i cou

clearly the commission will make much more competitive lines than the last very uncompetitive map drawnunder another process but might it have been more competitive? what's the way the commission makes those sort of decisions how best to represent communities of interest, how best to represent competition? >> competition is actually not a requirement of the california constitution. so what is thought will happen is that the instead of trying to divvy up these communities in such a way as to work against competition drawing just sort of on a base value neutral sort of criteria, you're going to see more competition emerge from that and david can probably back me up on this that is what we expect to see out of it. so it is sort of like competition emerging from some of the criteria not actually imposing competition as a requirement. however there are, arizona does that and washington actually, there are two states that have a requirement to create competitive districts. so if you want to, and there are some states that do this, you can explicitly put this into the state constitution. i cou

clearly the commission will make much more competitive lines than the last very uncompetitive map drawnunder another process but might it have been more competitive? what's the way the commission makes those sort of decisions how best to represent communities of interest, how best to represent competition? >> competition is actually not a requirement of the california constitution. so what is thought will happen is that the instead of trying to divvy up these communities in such a way as to work against competition drawing just sort of on a base value neutral sort of criteria, you're going to see more competition emerge from that and david can probably back me up on this that is what we expect to see out of it. so it is sort of like competition emerging from some of the criteria not actually imposing competition as a requirement. however there are, arizona does that and washington actually, there are two states that have a requirement to create competitive districts. so if you want to, and there are some states that do this, you can explicitly put this into the state constitution. i cou

and during tough economic times, we can't afford to be uncompetitive. >> you mention that had the majorticking point, particularly for the republicans, including yourself is that correct it is about spending. there was a significant proposal on behalf of the republicans who say planned parenthood, abortion services, that should be among those things cut. is it really about finances? is it about the economy? or is it more about certain social issues that you and others are fighting for? >> well, you know, there were some bills the governor had vetoed. as long as there has been politics and state houses in washington, d.c., bills that have been vetoed are asked if we could reconsider them. some of the other bills that the governor vetoed was a photo identification bill, a spending cap for property taxes, a cap on tuition for our college kids, a redefinition of the prevailing wage here in the state. the construction wage that we pay when we build roads and build buildings. it was about jobs, about the economy, it was about redesigning the way government works. if you want to take the focus

the last five years in our agreement with uaw in 2007 and also in 2009, we have gone from being uncompetitive best of the people in the united states. >> charlie: europe and asia. >> yes, absolutely. when i say looking forward to it, everybody now knows we have created a profitably growing factually. we're converting truck plants to car plants, making car plants in the united states profit me. we just announced over the next two years we'll be adding 7,000 new jobs. that's what everybody cares about. they were worried about the united states or worried about us competing. and so negotiations now are all focused on competitiveness. what more can we continue to do to make ford even more competitive soe can grew the business for the good of all of us. >> charlie: you don't foresee it in your future. >> is not even in the conversation. the conversations are about how we continue to improve ford because what everybody wants is they want for us to grow and maker great products and provide great jobs and great careers. that's what everybody's aligned about. >> charlie: i want to talk about your new

proper footing, to get a contract that both rewards the members but doesn't make the companies uncompetitive. so you know it's probably going-to-go right down to the wire, september 14. not unlike the debt ceiling. >> brown: (laughs) i was thinking the same thing. but this one we're pretty sure will get done. david shepardson, thanks again. >> thanks, jeff. >> ifill: next, libyan rebels gain friends abroad but not much ground at home. ray suarez has our report. >> suarez: britain today added itself to a list of more than 30 countries, including the united states, now giving diplomatic recognition to the rebels' national transitional council. british foreign secretary william hague: >> the national transitional council has shown its commitment to a more open and democratic libya, something that it is working to achieve through an inclusive political process. this is in stark contrast to qaddafi whose brutality against the libyan people has stripped him of all legitimacy. >> suarez: hague also said the move paves the way for the rebels to get access to $150 million of libyan oil money held in

has not only forestalled full employment, but has naidas made us -- but has made us increasingly uncompetitive in the global economy. we are fully prepared, anxious to see credits go there. those that are responsible to the community to bring manufacturing where it belongs. we are partners in the green economy initiative. we are particularly sensitive to these men and women who are 50 and older. i think something on the order of 13 million men and women have been an unemployed for more than a year. again, these are numbers you do not see publicly. there are at least 8 million to 9 million of them who are 50 years and older. about 5.5 million of them are 18 and older. half have a ab.a. or a bs. some have a college degree and cannot find a first job print some have a high-school diploma and cannot find a first job. the manufacturing renaissance would be the best thing that could happen to the older worker and a youth employment initiatives for the younger worker. finally, it is china. china is the dragon in the room, not the gorilla. it cheats and it cheats everyday. we thought we needed to have

i used to call the united states the saudi arabia of cold, but we have made it so ridiculously uncompetitive to be able to use their resourced of fuel what we do. over 50% of our electricity come c fromoal today. it is not going to change that might prove we are all for alternative issues, but missouri is heavy in automotive and defense, and many use energy to manufacture. we have one nuclear power plant. when it was built in the late 1970's, they built to pads, one for the current one, one for the next nuclear plant. we have been debating in missouri, capital for three years now, and here is what it comes down to, especially in the acute times that we have been through. those employers are looking at their energy costs next quarter. if there energy spikes at an aluminum smelter are at the takoma plan, or pick your manufacturer, you are going to take it. you are not going to like the results. if you're looking at the stock price, that will hurt you there. we had the unwelcome brawl between members, the utility companies and some who want to build this nuclear facility, which building and a c

clearly the commission will make much more competitive lines than the last very uncompetitive map drawnunder another process but might it have been more competitive? what's the way the commission makes those sort of decisions how best to represent communities of interest, how best to represent competition? >> competition is actually not a requirement of the california constitution. so what is thought will happen is that the instead of trying to divvy up these communities in such a way as to work against competition drawing just sort of on a base value neutral sort of criteria, you're going to see more competition emerge from that and david can probably back me up on this that is what we expect to see out of it. so it is sort of like competition emerging from some of the criteria not actually imposing competition as a requirement. however there are, arizona does that and washington actually, there are two states that have a requirement to create competitive districts. so if you want to, and there are some states that do this, you can explicitly put this into the state constitution. i cou

even bill clinton has said the corporate tax rates in this country are making us as a nation uncompetitiveto be competitive globally. so if you lower tax rates and kind of cut out some of this underbrush and a number of these deductions that you talk, i think that would be a good start in getting more people back to work. alisyn: senator john barrasso, we shall see what comes out of this meeting today at the white house. thanks so much for joining us with your thoughts. >> thank you, allison. jon: and something to think about as this country tries to reel in its huge debt, how do we pay for two long wars and the new conflict now underway in the libya? in libya? just some of the questions joint chiefs chairman admiral mike mullen is answering right now. we are live from the pentagon. >>> plus, you know the drill: put down your cell phone or risk a ticket in many states. but a major safety group is telling those states don't ban talking on the phone while driving. we'll tell you why. hey, the new guy is loaded with protein! really? 25 grams of protein. what do we have? all four of us, togeth

infrastructure we have that not only forestall of us from full employment but is making as increasingly uncompetitiven the global economy. we are anxious to see credits that are thoughtful and responsible to the business community to bring manufacturing back where it belongs. we are partners in the green economy initiative. we are particularly sensitive to the women and men who are part of that twenty-nine.five million. i think something on the order of thirteen million women and men were unemployed for more than a year. these numbers you don't see publicly. we think there are nine million of them fifty years and older. five million of the twenty-five.5 million young people. they can't find the first job. the other half have a diploma and can't find the first job. there's quite a lot of attention on both of our initiatives to both. manufacturing renaissance would be the best thing that could happen to the older worker and youth employment initiatives for the younger worker. finally china is the dragon in the room, not a guerrilla. it sheets every day. we have to have the backbone we thought we heard

infrastructure we have that this has not only forestalled full employment, but has naidas increasingly uncompetitive in the global economy. we are fully prepared, anxious to see credits go there. those that are responsible to the community to bring manufacturing where it belongs. we are partners in the green economy initiative. we are particularly sensitive to these men and women who are 50 and older. i think something on the order of 13 million men and women have been an unemployed for more than a year. these are numbers you do not see publicly. there are at least 8 million to 9 million of them who are 50 years and older. about 5.5 million of them are 18 and older. some have a college degree and cannot find a first job print some have a high-school diploma and cannot find a first job. the manufacturing renaissance would be the best thing that could happen to the older worker and a youth employment initiatives for the younger worker. finally, it is china. china is the dragon in the room, not the girl appeared it cheats and it cheats everyday. -- not the guerrilla. -- not the gorrila. it sheets and i

infrastructure that we have that has fore stalled us from full employment and is making us increasingly uncompetitive in the global economy. we're fully prepared and anxious to secrets come that are thoughtful and responsible to the business community. we are partners in the green economy initiative, as you'll read in the report. we're particularly sensitive to the women and men who are 50 and older who are part of the 29.5 million. i think something on the order of 13 million women and men now have been unemployed for more than a year. again these numbers you don't see publicly. we think there are at least eight million or nine million of them 50 years or older. five million of the 29.5 million are young people, half of them have a b.a. or b.s., the other half have a diploma, can't find their first job. you'll see quite a bit of attention paid in both of our initiatives to both, in our initiatives, to both. a manufacturing renaissance would be the best thing to happen@older worker and youth employment initiatives for the younger worker. finally, it's china. china is the dragon in the room, it's not

what president clinton says today is that our corporate rates make us uncompetitive in a worldwide economy. be advised that there are members of your party that disagree with you on that issue, alan. and finally on the issue of trying to destroy barack obama's presidency. thisn't really think -- bargain that we are sort of hearing details on, if it comes to fruition, i think it actually will help president obama and i think his popularity will go up. of course, i will be voting for the republican nominee in november of 2012. and i hope most americans do. but be that as it may, i think the president and all of us in washington could help ourselves politically by doing as reagan and tip o'neill did, doing the right thing to say our economy and bringing us back from the brink of financial ruin. host: the next call from senator wicker comes from dallas. carl, independent line. caller: senator wicker, i was able to watch the discussion fairly calmly until you brought up the 1983 greenspan commission as a model for what we should do now. maybe as a model of the two opposite sides talking. but as

"the saudi arabia of coal," we have made it so ridiculously uncompetitive to be able to use that resource to fuel what we do. over 50% of our energy comes from coal today. that will not change that much. we are all for exploring that, but on how employers view this, we are heavy on defense and a lot of those use energy to power the factories and processing centers. we have one nuclear power plant. when it was built, in the late paths, they built two one for the current one, and one that we have been debating it for three years now. here's what it comes down to. those employers are looking at their energy costs next quarter, unless they are locked in a long contract, but if their energy spikes at an aluminum smelter, or pick your manufacturer, you will not like the results. if you're looking at the stock price, it will hurt you there. we have an on welcome brawl between members of the utility companies and some who want to build that this nuclear facility, and building a nuclear basilic or any state in the union would be a construction zone for years. the providers and industrial consumers

we've got an uncompetitive rate." he said "we tax at 35% of income, although we only take about 23%. so we should cut the rate to 25% or whatever is competitive and eliminate a lot of the deductions so that we still get a fair amount and there's not so much variance in what the corporations pay." the editorial goes on to say -- "anyone not in thrall of class war symbolism understands that the u.s. corporate tax code provides the worst of both worlds. it makes u.s. companies less competitive, even as it raises much less revenue than advertised. mr. obama and secretary of state tim geithner have acknowledged this in the past. the president as recently in this year's state of the union address. as for the debt limit politics, this is also a winner. democrats and republicans say they have agreed privately on sizable spending cuts over a ten-year budget window. no doubt, some of those cuts are less real than others, and future congresses could rewrite any enforcement provisions passed this year. but republicans still have

that this has not only forestalled full employment, but has naidas -- is making us increasingly uncompetitive in the global economy. we are fully prepared, anxious to see credits go there. those that are responsible to the community to bring manufacturing where it belongs. we are partners in the green economy initiative. we are particularly sensitive to these men and women who are 50 and older. i think something on the order of 13 million men and women have been an unemployed for more than a year. publicly. 9 million of them who are 50 years and older. about 5.5 million of them are 18 and older. some have a college degree and cannot find a first job print some have a high-school diploma and cannot find a first job. andthe manufacturing renaissance could happen to the older worker and a youth employment initiatives for the younger worker. china is the dragon in the room, not the girl appeared it cheats and it cheats everyday. -- not the guerrilla. it sheets and it sheets every day. keith0 and speaks more deadly than i in length manufacturing. michael, we thank you for your leadership in introd