>> it's unconclusive. you wouldn't know what it's going to do. it's going to hurt the lowest skill workers. it's a desirable result without what you really need which is raising the skill level and creating more demand for those jobs. without those things, it's a band-aid effect. >> in the 13 states that have increased the minimum wage have seen more job growth than all the other states. i don't know about american samoa, but it's working in states that are raising the minimum wage across the country. >> should we, as you ssuzy? >> we all want people to make more money but what's a stupid idea is doing it at the federal level, which is what hillary clinton is talking about, in washington, raising it there. it's local issue, supply and demand. cities do it, they have more or less workers, more or less work. jobs are not about the minimum wage. jobs are a federal and economic policy around regulation, broken record around regulation, and that's where jobs are created. >> thank you, suzy. thanks to suzy and mark for joining us. coming up next, why o