he start a fraternity for the uncool kids because there are more of them and he consciously outsiders against the establishment. he was running for student body president, bring dancing, dances to college, very proper, don't want to have dances, why is -- why is that his flat form? he know that is the rich kids can go dancing any time they want, they can go to country club, they can go the fancy restaurants. it's the poor kids who don't. by bringing dancing he won the poor kids vote. there were more poor kids than rich kids. he won by a landslide. >> when does the dark side start to show up? did you see anything before that -- >> he was glooming and moody to given to outburst. he was not popular. he was always campaigning. so you can see, and he had a temper. first girlfriend, first girlfriend thought he was kind of cruel to her in away and cheated on her not in the modern sense by dancing with others even though he was a terrible dancer. signs of being a difficult person. but then the sort of rough politics point, early interesting figure in american politics. california was an early

. >> we're so uncool, nobody want to do it any more. >> i showed this morning, she is mean, they put a song to it, she's doing it over and over. >> so your life is now complete. >> you're right. there is absolutely nothing left to achieve. i'm done. >> how is that foreign guagement? >> oh, all right. >> quote of the month. >> right now, we have the radar, lehigh valley, berks county, it is not here in the city yet, but starting to sneak into chester county in the turnpike there is getting a little bit of rain. so what to expect? the rain moves inbetween 6:00 and 9:00 this morning. it will be windy with gusts up to 30 miles an hour rat times this afternoon. that wind driven rain makes it even more fun to travel around in. so the lesson is not necessarily right now, but later on, allow yourself a lot of extra time. by the end of the day it, looks like we'll have close to inch of rain for most of us, half inch for some, little over an inch for others. but there will be times of heavy downpours. so just have to be on the alert. there will be mild temperatures today, say good-bye after to

school are continuously telling me i'm a queer and in those days in the 70's high school queer, weird, uncoolnpopular, that sort of thing. and my dad looked at me and he said, they're not continuously telling you're a queer. [laughter] >> they're continually telling you you're a queer. [laughter] >> continuously would be you're queer, queer, queer, queer. [laughter] >> continually would be you're queer, you're queer. and the moral of that story is that is why i'm severely damaged. that's true. well, i want to thank you for letting me talk about myself for the last five minutes, although i must say if you're not in the mood to hear people talk about themselves, you have come to the wrong place tonight. [laughter] if history is any guide, it's going to kind of be a theme up in here tonight. yes, but that's cool because it's the national book awards. ladies and gentlemen, are you ready for the show. [applause] [cheers and applause] >> are you ready? i have hosted this three times and i have to say this is the best national book award audience i've ever dealt with it. you guys are a pleasure, abs

. >> this isn't grade school where people are thinking you're uncool. here we are. >> probably shesoh interested in knowing president clinton referred to his 1988 convention speech. one of the great failures of speeches he made and one of the most remarkable turn arounds to become the president four years later. any comments on that? >> you did refer to it from time to time. i think he has a different perspective on it. not that the speech was a great success, he's never argued that. he had a set of obligations and that contributed to the length. that was the fact that he wanted us to understand. >> this is summer of 1988. clinton is the third term. i was in law school between years and i was at me house in northern wisconsin watching that convention. one of my pals i group with was across town. he called up during the clinton speech. he said are you watching the future president? i said i i sure am. we both thought he was presidential material. >> good afternoon, thank you all for >> when i was that age community service was something that the juvenile

[laughter] come on,singer: people, this is not great school where people will think you are uncool if you speak up and ask questions. here we are. im interested in knowing if president clinton ever referred to his 1988 convention speech, one of the great failures of a speech that he made, and one of the most remarkable turnarounds to become the president for years later. any comments on that? mr. judge: he did refer to it from time to time. i think he had a different perspective on it. not that it was a great success, but he walked up there with a long line of things that the dukakis people wanted him to discuss in that speech. that contributed to the length. and that was a fact that he wanted us to understand. [laughter] >> jeff, i can tell you something, though, clinton is the third or fourth term governor of arkansas. i was in law school. it was between years. i was at my folks house in northern wisconsin, watching that convention. one of my pals i grew up with across town, he called up during and he saidspeech -- are you watching the future president? i said -- i sure am. in both

sasha and asked for respectful distance and so funny to see them looking at their dad like you are so uncoolrs in a row. what's the history? this is fun. this is unique. but there is a background for it. >> yeah. it's a fun thing. the tradition goes back a long ways of presidents being presented with turkeys for thanksgiving. the thing was for a long time they never really knew what to do with them and a lot of times they wouldn't actually eat them or donate them to a soup kitchen or something. the pardoning idea actually came about by accident. ronald reagan was president. this is in the late 1980s and the problem was there was a scandal brewing in the reagan administration and at his press conference right before thanksgiving, sam donaldson, known for hounding ronald reagan, he starts asking him, plp, plp, are you going to pardon point december ter, north? olver north, the figures there. he didn't like the question, didn't want to answer the question. the turkey there and said maybe i'll pardon this guy instead. that's where the whole idea of pardoning the turkey came from in 1986. >> pete