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or joining russia und he heavy russia pressure, where were we?didn't even know where it was on the map. lou: i tell you judey miller was there reporting on ukraine. and precisely this issue this past summer. and no one has in my opinion done as good a job. >> thank you. lou: thank you for that. ron, we're not hearing a lot out of the republican party on this we -- there are two sort of rogue senators, graham and mccape who seemingly represent the republican party on foreign policy, is that the case? >> i hope not. but it demonstrates. not only a vacuum of leadership in the white house but also coming from the republican party. judey is right. you had months ago a situation where uaine had an opportunity to stay are we going to stick with e.u. be democracy or be bullied by russia, this follows the pattern that we've seen with iran, and syria, i fault republicans for not coming out saying, if president is not decisive, we'll all or an alternative. lou: i think we have to give bill and hillary clinton some credit, they have been focused on this issu

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this event welcomes the first public event around the international und security of the council. there are a lot of reasons why atlantic council were to bring israel's foreign ambassador to the u.s. starting february 1. we're getting him here shortly after he began at the council. the press release we si ulated late in january, said the following, quote, oren brings to the council a picture of the top historian's knowledge. highest level diplomats. and the best-selling author's skills. you'll see a taste of all of that in his opening and the q&a today. e's a person not only know how diplomacy would be done and shouldn't be done. historical the context more richly than any known.dor you've ever we face a crucial moment in the history of the middle east. hear today ambassador oren is a creative sometimes box cative out of the thinker. this year, the council, address r oren will topics concerning the future role in the middle east along research on edge israel's relationship with other regional partners. first and foremost, please join ambassador oren. and second before i turn the h

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i have a sister who chairs the social work department at und. and every place i go in north dakota when i run into her students they tell me how she changed their lives. and so, it is a privilege to be here and important to be here, but what my siblings do every day is important. and i am proud of them. >> senator heidi heitkamp. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next, is a conversation with republican senator john thune. he is part of the gop leadership. he talks about how he got involved in politics, his family and his interest outside of washington. >> senator john thune, republican of south dakota, do you remember the first time he came to washington dc? >> i do, actually. i was in college and at that time, there was a member of congress from the state of south dakota, jim abner, who i had gotten to know when i was in high school. and he had me come out here and spend a week over one of the periods when congress was in session and just got acquainted with the town and with congress and sort of politics in general. and that was one of the

near whiteout condition and several spinouts shutting down traffic there67% of california und eer extremeget rain this weekend. win the weather blamed for all problems. burst pipes slumping sales and it stretches nearly from coast to coast. here's ted rowlands. >> reporter: fred, this unrelenting winter is not only horribly painful to deal with it is also very expensive. out of business because of a broken water pipe. >> found water just all over the place, and -- >> reporter: it is hard to imagine anyone more upset about this winter than the owner of roseal's italian co-chine nkach chick's little italy. >> he was crying. >> reporter: the unrelenting snow and freezing temperatures forced cities across the country to shell out thousands in y overtime play to plow streets and now many areas are running low on road salts for forcing crews to cut back or pay three times the price for the other white stuff now in short supply. >> really because of the lack of supply. >> reporter: several industries are feeling the effects of this winter. airlines lost an estimated quarter of a billion dollars,

right now in terms of building out that because you're negotiating with the mongolian government over undinghow are they going and what are the obstacles? >> no obstacles as such. these are complex and go see asians and will be very long run. it is important to get it right and it is important we sit down with the government and work through and clear all the issues commit billion's of dollars to take the project forward. it is a good project and all sides want to see the project go ahead. we'll be good for the people of mongolia, as it will be good for the shareholders. i should also mention phase one, the open cup, we are shipping to customers. everything is going very smoothly there. >> there is work delayed. if there are no issues, what is going on? >> there is a minor delay. as you ramp up any project. there are things you need to settle down. but the point i was making is that the ramp up has been good and we are delivering to customers. yes, a few minor issues we have to work through, but is a -- it is a good project and copper is a good commodity. >> ok. falling iron prices, we have

>> first of all, bill, just so unds don't want to mis you which is the supposedly 45,000 was inside bass at the so it was encased in the bass at the and that's why i was making that particular point and i would also say that natural law habit changed. as i said we have the logic and uniform of mother nature. that -- at least why we can do good experimental science because we assume those laws are true and that will be true tomorrow. i do want to be say this. that you've said a few times, ken ham's view or ken ham's model. it's not just ken ham's model. we have a number of ph.d. on our staff. i quoted and had video quotes from so some scientists. it's dr. in a maid yum's and dr. faulkner's model. it's dr. snellings model and dr. per dumb's model. and you go on that website, and there are lots of creation science that agree with what we are saying concerning the bible. so it's not just my model in that sense. there's so much they could say i t -- as i listen to you, believe you're confusing terms in regards to species and kinds. because we're not saying god created all those species. we're

it is unjust, immoral and with the number of women with und undergraduate degrees, think about the moneyt is in the economy. so we are talking about an opportunity agenda for the entire country. in a state that is so poor and needs assistance, supporting women in a we should have been all long is something i am very proud to promote. and very excited about the message. >> thank you, mitchell. as we talked to you yesterday, we talked about an economy that works for all americans and that is including all of us and that is one important pillar of the economic agenda going forward. we are very proud of it. it is something that is catching fire across the country. i presented it to the members, well they hear about it every week if not every day, but as a case study of how we will advance our agenda. we started with the paul tonko of new york about his event that had the headliner on the first page. it talked about how four stations played it. one as a preview and three covered it. and then it went on to the social media. so respectful of the role you play, we want you to be the one to see i

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i have a sister who chairs the social work department at und. and every place i go in north dakota when i run into her students they tell me how she changed their lives. and so, it is a privilege to be here and important to be here, but what my siblings do every day is important. and i am proud of them. >> senator heidi heitkamp. thank you very much. thank you. we spoke to him about his family and family name. we talked with him late last year. >> senator john thune, republican of south dakota, do you remember the first time he came to washington dc? >> i do, actually. i was in college and at that time, there was a member of congress from the state of south dakota, jim abner, who i had gotten to know when i was in high school. and he had me come out here and spend a week over one of the periods when congress was in session and just got acquainted with the town and with congress and sort of politics in general. and that was one of the first times i guess i can remember actually starting to get a little bit interested in politics. >> what were you

i have a sister who chairs the social work department at und.nd every place i go in north dakota when i run into her students they tell me how she changed their lives. and so, it is a privilege to be here and important to be here, but what my siblings do every day is important. and i am proud of them. >> senator heidi heitkamp. thank you very much. >> thank you. the agriculture for him, secretary says the public does not -- here's a little of what he said. >> to me, what has to happen in the country is there has to be a greater appreciation for producers generally. and those who feed us. every person in this audience who is not a farmer has the luxury not to be a farmer in this country. the reason we have that luxury as we do not have to produce the food for our families. we transfer that responsibility to somebody else we are happy to do that because we have the most productive farmers in the world. but we don't appreciate that. we don't appreciate the fact that i could be a lawyer. some could be a doctoral or runny see copy -- a doctor or or r

organizations in the 501(c) come into the last count i am told we have received over 21,000 comments unde on the bigt responses to draft regulations. but we are in the middle of the process and we need to then have a comment period that will close at the end of the month so i would encourage anyone that has a view on that to provide it. it will take some time to go through the comments and we will probably have a public hearing on it. so the issue in the middle of the process, providing the information about who talked to who and what they had to say is complicated, because what we do not want to do is interfere with the internal discussions into the review of those comments and the proposal of what either a potential final regulation would look like for more comments. but we are anxious to work with the chairman in terms of making sure that you have information to say we would like to close the 501(c)4 issue and how the regulations are designed is somewhat of a separate issue that we need to discuss with you. but i stress we are in the middle of the front end of that process and so we ne

it was established a year i was a seern senior and i was the jewish history major as und undergrad. spent a year in israel. when i went to grad school, i looked at women in the ultraorthodox community and i looked at a particular group new york city and i was looking at jewish fundamentalism. it was fascinating to see what it would be like to live as a traditional jewish women but in the feminist time of our lives. so i looked at how the women in this one acytic community took the language of american feminism and applied it to their lives. and i fig -- finished it -- at up state new york ivy-league school. >> host: and you write no group of immigrant women committed to reproducing a spiritual vision of womenhood should be marginalized by there feminist historian. instead they have an obligation of acknowledging the diverseness. >> guest: friends upgrade -- in grad school looked at the major leaders and the feedback i got was why would you pick the right-wing women who live in a community where women are not permited to do what men do. but i said you have to look at the whole apple.

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we'll have to see if these und hs of millions of dollars that amazon, microsoft, and hulu are all spendflix has set a truly new standard for streaming video. >> yeah, i guess the question really, julia, if the stock rose 130% on the basis it's more like hbo, whether now the risks are to the upside or downside given you already meant to be like hbo, now prove that you are, being the new -- the new higher bar, if you like. >> well, it all depends on how many new viewers they can lure in. how many new subscribers they can get. simon, a big piece of netflix is the international expansion. that's certainly a big part of this is netflix has announced big plans to expand overseas next year. >> julia, thank you very much. >>> let's bring in jon fortt. how would you address that issue as to where the bar now stands? >> i think the sky is potentially the limit but we don't know the extent to which netflix and others are disrupting traditional media distribution and content. we know what's happening, just not the extent. you think about it, this was not supposed to happen. the whole idea it seemed