>> y "underdogs"? would you call this book "underdogs"? >> the marines have a name for themselves called double dogs, which comes from world war i. the best term to describe how marines thought of themselves as underdogs. they were always a minority culture. very small institution inside the defense establishment and they always felt from the beginning to be persecuted and under risk, under threat, under siege by the army and navy, who do great at attempt to the numbers, reduce their funding or even abolish them out right. the single most important touristic of the culture is this notion that if they don't do everything they can to win alliances, protect their interests, they'll be wiped out. >> aaron o'connell, is that underdog feeling reinforced in the marines? >> is still alive and well today. i must be clear, there's some very positive elements of the cultural tree. it's made the mixture of really focused and energized and cohesive. even today a time when they have legislative protections, unquestionably prestigious, popular and import

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that makes romney the underdog.e goes in with only 40 percent of the public thinking is going the when. expectations of lower. if it exceeds expectations was generally is the key to winning a debate he will come out the winner. he has to do better than most people think. a think you will, and that's why i think he has an advantage. stuart: we just saw him go on the attack in the republican primaries. he goes on the attack against various other competitors. do you think he looked good? >> i think he has to go on the attack against this president has up to now been almost invulnerable to attack from the mainstream media, from the people who protect them, a tridymite use the second coming. i think he's a guy who is very thin-skinned. and if romney can get under his skin, if the contract that no trauma obama facade , make obama look as though he is put off balance, i think romney can do very well. >> study the problem that a fair romney is as aggressive as those could suggested that the likability factor could give wors

the underdog got on top and would probably be just as rotten as the underdog. but in the meantime i am for him. he needs his friends a damn sight more. americans of his era through it strength. they can again today. there is something grand and epic in his fierce resistance to those oppressive forces which in varying sizes had inspired the rebels in his ancestry, the abolitionists in his boyhood, and it imperils freedom in his lifetime and still pose a threat to our liberty today. the marks of battle are all over his face after watching the road trial. he has been through more wars than a regiment of pershings, and most have been startled to the death without quarter quarter. has he always one? actually, no. his cause seems lost among us. facilities live on. they do, but they are not as safe as they used to beat. thanks. [applause] >> when darrell argued his cases , was he always putting the interests of his clients first, or did his desire to promote a particular political point of view or his desire to expand his own persona on the national stage sometimes ta

an underdog. could it be because voters love an underdog?e'll take a look at histories november surprises. the prints presses running over time. wall street loves it. the economy, apparently, needs it, and with the easy money, we couldn't poly did over the cliff, could we? wall street legends say, oh, yes, we would. lou: stock market closing out a terrific third quarter as ben bernanke's easy money policies make investors feel good. we take that up with lou, neant money line, stocks finishing lower on the day, but posting the third best quarter since 2010. the dow jones industrial's dropping 49 points. s&p is down six and a half, and nasdaq down 20, but still well off the lows of the day. dragging the market today, consumer spending, up just half a percent, increase because of higher gasoline prices. oversea, bank of spain releasing an audit showing seven of the countries failed stress tests despite anxiety about the eurozone. the big three indexes up 44% for the quarter. a federal judge today delivering a blow to the future trading commissi

on paper, all the experts once again say the giants are underdogs. >> the only way to learn how your body is going to respond to these situations is having been in them before. so i think that's what has made it easier for me this postseason to draw on some of my past experiences pitching in the postseason and some big games to just allow me to be a little more at ease out there. >> when they were down 0-2 in cincinnati, having to win 2 games, that's when it hit me. nothing surprised me getting into the championship series. >> 5:07 tomorrow evening. the second team in history to win six straight elimination games. you have to go back to amos otis in 1985, george brett and company, kansas city royals. they outscored st. louis 20-1 in the final three games. earlier tonight, bip roberts, the 2-time all-star, who knows about playing in a world series, and giants ceo larry baer wanted to be on kron. and we enjoyed each other talking about can they keep the magic going. >> gary, it's been so incredible, i don't know. i have to say that being in the clubhouse, after game 3 in cincinnati, an

he started as an underdog. >> and disliked. first trash talker.d said i'm the greatest and made rhymes. i'm grade and going to win in eight. people didn't like him. he goes to fight the great -- he was the baddest man on the planet before mike tyson, served time in a missouri state penitentiary for armed robbery, heavy favorite. lost once. arena is half empty. everyone assumes in miami that clay is going to lose. and clay now i'm the greatest. >> and rematch in maine of all plays. >> still looking for that punch. >> there's another underdog in your book, jim abbott. born without a right hand. this is yankee legend here. >> he played for other teams, too. could you imagine not being born with a right hand? his parents wanted him to play soccer for obvious reasons. he wants to play baseball. throws a no-hitter first game he ever pitches. become the quarterback. the coach says he has a strong arm and also punts. can you imagine trying to field the long snap with one hand and punting? pitches a no-hitter for the yankees. inspiring story. >> what i lov

right now vladimir is good and plenty of worldwide exposure so i understand why i'm considered the underdogbut i'm not too worried about it i'm surrounded by people who fully believe in me and i'm confident that i have what it is easier to defeat him when your bullshit let's head back to football finally to revisit all of the strikes that fall in the back of the net in the tenth round of the russian premier league goals galore brings you all two dozen why not take your pick. play live. live live . live . live. live in the terms let me play such a. that's all your sport for in under two hours time for more. overcoming a barrier like this. what you call something. when you. go do whatever it takes to get all the talk of the world. you. my parents really truly honestly believe that what had happened was as a result of my father's exposure to agent orange i was born with multiple problems . i was missing my leg and my fingers in my big toe on my right foot i use my hands a lot in my artwork i find myself drawing my hands quite a bit to me. for my hands you know just as if anyone would. but they

despite a solid debate performance, he seems to be playing to some the underdog once again.dent is making stop after stop across the country, pushing his supporters to vote early, and vote like it's 2008 all over again. mr. romney, on the other hand, is touting himself as the front runner, ready to lead presidential, just like in the republican primary. might be two different ways of going about things, but just listen to the tone that the two candidates took yesterday. >> in a world of new threats, and profound challenges, america needs leadership that is strong, and is steady. governor romney's foreign policy has been wrong and reckless. last night, he was all over the map. >> we've gone through four debates now. we've gone through four debates with the vice presidential debates and my debates and we haven't matter an agenda from the president. and that's why our campaign is full speed ahead. >> the latest abc washington post poll taken just before the debate does show romney with a slight edge. governor romney with a slight edge. though still well within the margin of err

he's the underdog now. the president of the united states is now the underdog, and now if he shows up, he speaks in complete sentences. >> having said that, one thing joe you wrote yesterday in politico i thought was right on the money -- >> by the way, when i write politico donny takes it home. >> i do times square and do responsive reading with an audience. >> okay. >> like a high holy day. we have never seen obama having to fight. we've always seen him gliding aalong the top. it's always kind of when wind at his back. i use the world gerstalt but what we really see about this guy, can he counterpunch? we've never seen him in the position. you've been called out. what do you got? we're going to see it -- you're really going to see what's in that here. >> this is so demoeshlizing. his counterpunch is big bird. what is that? that's not the most deep counterpunch you can have. >> i'm not talking about in the moment, i'm talking about now for a week or two weeks he's been called out. >> i agree with, sam, tho

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candidate for the underdog voters who are these on the it certainly most of the american public people are losing their jobs wages are declining millions have lost their home another million are in the pipeline to lose their homes this year the cost of health care is skyrocketing public higher education is increasingly out of reach we have thirty six million young people who are students or recent graduates who are effectively indentured servants because they don't have the jobs or the wages to repay these unforgiving and the political establishment is not doing anything about.

candidate for the underdog voters who are these on the docket voters it's certainly most of the american public people are losing their jobs wages are declining millions have lost their home another million are in the pipeline to lose their homes this year the cost of health care is skyrocketing public higher education is increasingly out of reach we have thirty six million young people who are students or recent graduates who are effectively indentured servants because they don't have the jobs or the wages to repave these unforgiving debts and the political establishment is not doing anything about it while a very small segment of the american population the one percent we say is making out like bandits so neither party is fixing this i just want to make this clear you're going to be on ballots but not in all states can you explain what is it in the system in the us that makes it so hard for a third party to break into those two horse race exactly the american system is designed to eliminate political opposition like some of the you know dictatorships that we criticize that have rigged

authors per at the wasadem unable academy joining us is arrow coddle was also author of the book underdog makingthey of the modern marine corps. when was it established? >> 1775. of marines claim 10 november but that was just a date congress authorized the creation. they did not raise those for. battalions.?? those battalions never were but the first marine goes into uniform 28 november this still celebrated as their birthday. >> host: what was the purpose? >> originally to be the guard on ship to protect the officers from the crew. it was difficult to salishan up. they had to have people there to enforce. na their job was to be ship's guard and also snipers buthe they are a very small part of the navy. >> host: and the marine corps is completed the separate service? >> inside the navy but it was contentious. they've good claim they should follow the navy and ashore follow thearmy, d regulations of the army. they eventually 1832 they are a separate service inside the >> navy. >> host: how did the mission changed? of >> guest: dave remained ships guards to the 20thng as century but jack

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this is really a story about the underdogs coming up ahead. in the clubhouse, corks were flying, champagne flowing. this is a big deal because nobody expected it this year. the team is young. there are 15 rookies on the roster. and many of them actually played key roles in last night's win like pitcher jarrod parker who held the rangers to three runs and six hits. the as took the lead in the 1st inning. the teams were then tied by the 4th. then coco crisp gave the as the lead the rangers couldn't catch. the athletics are headed to the post-season for the first time since 2006 taking one of the american league's two wild card play-off spots. >> when you look at the team when i was in spring training nobody gave it a chance. at least the people from the outside didn't give it a chance. what did you think? >> i think it was a mistake. we cannot a few articles and so we're going to lose 1030 games. none of us believed that. billy didn't believe at that time all. >> reporter: the as still have some work to do if they want to win their division but

>> how great is it for barack obama, look at this positively, he's the underdog now. the president of the united states is now the underdog. >> mitt romney will be stump thing hour in battleground ohio with the fiery surrogate chris christie who will be bringing what some on the left call his own jersey shore brand of gtl. go tell lies. meanwhile, romney's getting help from at not so eke receipt weapon of his own. his wife, ann. appearing on "gma" and launching a mid week media blitz calling president obama and democrats poor sports. >> it is sort of like someone that, you know, in the sandbox like lost the game and they are just going to kick sand in someone's face and say you liar. i mean, it is like -- they lost. and so now they just are going to say okay, the game, you know, between didn't like the game. >> okay. let's dive in to our wednesday political power panel. msnbc's contributor jimmy sxwms republican strategist hogan giddily. it is good to have you here. jimmy, i want to start with you. bill clinton was on fire in las vegas yesterday. making the case romne

should teddy have won or stayed a permanent underdog? weigh in by voting on our nbc washington facebook page and let us know. >> he was jumping. but pretty humble in the end. >>> now we've got a warning today about a computer scam. the federal trade commission is cracking down on telemarketers who prey on people concerned about their computers. >> they call offering to remove viruses, or spyware from your computer. that doesn't exist. you pay for it, and as danielle lee reports, they get access to your pc, and your credit card. >> reporter: the scam starts with a phone call. on the other end, an individual often from india, posing as a technical support. this recording from the federal trade commission, you hear the scammer in action. he calls attention to a standard computer utility area like this one. and pretends the messages are evidence of a virus. the scammer offers to remove this fake infection for access to your computer and up to $450. >> it's a very serious rip-off of consumers. >> reporter: ftc chairman says an international i

buster posy all feeling good vogelson is the starting the san francisco giants once again are the underdog for game 3 tomorrow. for what that is worth. and the fellows. prior to the work out. >> i would much prefer the lead in the other way again and that is just a number. >> we are definitely not taking this for granted. we want to come out here and play the type of baseball the we have been planning for the past six days and try to get victories as soon as possible that we have been--plan flying playing. >> we just need to keep our momentum. >> the giants are up 2-0. >> and let us take a look at the work out at comerica. and the official forecast in a moment but it is not going to be california. there are expecting temperatures in the 30's and the tigers have to win. no question. however, that is the story. as we get ready for game no. 3 tomorrow in detroit. sandoval is hitting 714. for the world series. i cannot say that the heat is going to be on and let us remember that he had three home runs. the odds are is that he is not going to do that again. and perhaps with detroit tigers with

>> i think people like the underdog. and she is the ultimate underdog.itics are and her politics and what she said. >> jimmy: a terrible explanation. let's go to you. >> i think the election has something to do with it. i don't know. >> it's part of the show. some people like controversy. i think they had a little bit. and people want to watch next week and see if they're going to be voted off or not. >> jimmy: did you think maybe i'll cause some controversy. maybe i'll do something. >> that's why i stepped on the dress last night. >> jimmy: you did step on her dress. >> i sent the white powder. but i didn't get the press for it. >> jimmy: this is a bombshell. well. the dress step, that was a mistake. >> it was planned. >> jimmy: it was planned? >> yep. we planned it. sorry. >> i'm sorry. i didn't have that much dress on. >> i was thinking about throwing up on stage, though. >> jimmy: that would be great. why didn't you do that? >> i don't know. i was too late. >> jimmy: vomiting is a plus. do you guys have your mirrorball trophies displayed prominently

joining us is professor aaron o'connell, who is also the author of this book, "underdogs: the making of the modern marine

but showalter is treating this like the orioles are still the underdog. >> you can pass through thereill standing, you got a chance to keep playing games. i do not think anyone is surprised that we're standing here looking at them. i understand the the surprise may be who is looking at them. >> senior giants lead the cleveland browns. >> let's hope the o's are more fired up than ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >> let's look at the week ahead. generally cool, below average temperatures. the closest we will be to leverage will be wednesday partially cloudy and 71 with the chance of a shower north of washington. tomorrow columbus day, "landry with late day showers. -- cool and dreary. >> we will

now he is the underdog. when he comes back, knocks it out of the park, it is going to be like when the red sox beat the yankees in 2004. they couldn't do it. it is not gonna happen, never been done. then he does it. oh my god. the greatest thing ever. >> he will either be the underdog or eat a dog. because he ate one in indonesia. remember that, people? i will never let you forget he ate a dog jie. he ate a dog? >> he ate a dog. that's why he can never be president, again anyway. you made a good point, but all presidents have to deal with that. they are all going up against an incumbent with two things to do. but that's why we elected him. he directed his poor performance in front of a bunch of stars. isn't it a factor he only feels comfortable in front of mega celebrities. >> and he made that joke on a tele prompter. it wasn't like it was an impromptu joke. he didn't even laugh after. when you make a joke you have to relax a little bit. he was not relaxed. it was very forced i felt like. but what i want to

since president obama is the underdog tonight, what adoes he need to do tonight?se is next. >>> "talkback" question this morning. since president obama is the underd underdog, what does the president need to do in tonight's debate. this from scott. be himself, focus on his plan, how he'll get congressional cooperation and a vision of where he sees us domestically and internationally. from chris, don't be so nice and get nasty like romney. i do not vote for mr. nice guy. i know he has it in him. and this from ed. he needs to just give up and throw in the towel. next question? keep the conversation going, thanks as always for your comments. what?! you've got to be kidding me. [ derek ] i've never seen a road like this. there's jagged rock all the way around. this is really gonna test the ats on all levels. [ derek ] this road is the most uneven surface, and it gets very narrow. magnetic ride control is going to be working hard. the shock absorbers react to the road 1,000 times a second. it keeps you firmly in control. whoa! [ male announcer ] the all-new cadillac at

poll president obama likely does not want to win because he essentially says mitt romney is the underdog going into the debate. >> kelly? >> i don't think i've seen a gap that huge in one of the polls. the national candidates are usually neck and neck, pretty close. >> reporter: the cnn poll out among likely voters show present obama at 50% and mitt romney at 47%. that's obviously, within the margin of error. given the wednesday debate and others, there's a lot of room for either side to make up some ground. >> okay. looks like we're having technical difficulty. let's head over to jamie costello. >> all right. tonight, it's very popular on abc2news.com. elizabeth loves to crochet. now she is turning it into a business. 2 -- $25,000 up for grabs. sherrie johnson sits down to learn more. >> reporter: 16-year-old elizabeth loves crocheting. she has turned it into a business, an opportunity taking her to new york. >> i feel proud of myself because most people, most young kids think that crocheting is for older people. >> reporter: elizabeth moved to the united states from africa when she was

spending too much time analyzing the wild card game tonight and the orioles' starting to look like underdogs. a texas played the world series last year, he owes haven't played in a world series since 1983. any major league team can beat any other major-league team in a one-game series. it comes down to who gets caught. if anybody feels pressure, it happens to be the rangers that have dropped nine of the last 13 games. the >> they are supposed to be in the postseason. but the fact that they limped in, the fans have been ridiculed for the way they have collapsed. look at what the rangers have done thus far. they did not get it done, they are not feeling terribly confident. they know they have lost 10 out of 12 against this team and those that losses have been brutal. they feel they belong and are happy to be here. >> it is always motivating. the goal was to win the world series. if you don't, what are you here for? >> give credit where credit is due. we don't take the rangers lightly by any means. what we are both still on the hunt for the world series. >> the winner advances on sunday to a ho

there's natural undertow, if you will, for the underdog. the second is the president, he's busy with a lot of things during his presidency. and he doesn't have the time to prepare. and give mitt romney credit. for those who say, well, he was lucky last night. listen, where preparation meets opportunity, that's what a lot of people call luck. he was enormously prepared. he also had gone through 19 debates during the primary season. had spent a great deal of time preparing for this debate, whereas, it's no excuse, president obama had a lot of other things to think about. i also think president obama made the classic mistake, which is to underestimate his opponent. and the second mistake, this is a long list, that he viewed this apparently more as a seminar than a debate. where you want to say, sir, please, excuse me, mr. president, sir, this is a debate, not a seminar. there were moments when he came off rather professorial rather than seeking re-election. >> there are factors of holding the presidency, itself, that disincline a president tow

. >> mitt romney is the underdog and he will be ready on the issues which is what this is about. >> they say the debate will pressure the challenger. >> i think the debate will be interesting and they will be held to account for as far -- for more as far as the facts and details. >> reporter: both know the questions an answers can be costly. >> quite a few have lost an election with a debate. >> meaning what happens tonight could decide what happened. >> live in denver, i am sandra back to you. >> our coverage starts at 6:00 p.m. time now 4:46, they created a protest to ban sitting on sidewalks in the city's commercial areas. opponents shared ice cream and a kiss in front of city hall and they say it was a recreation of president barack obama and michelle obama's first date of eating ice cream on the sidewalk. it will unfairly tar get the homeless. a san francisco city leader is working to get people covered up and they are receiving numerous complaints about the naked people who frequented the public plaza at 17th and market streets. now he is proposing a plan and people in the area say

what's it better to go in the last two weeks as the underdog people are rooting for? come on, people, you can do it. or you can be the woman with confidence? >> clearly confidence. they want to back a winner. chris: kathleen? >> right now, clearly, romney has that momentum. he looks like the winner right now. >> you want to be riding a wave of support real or imaginative but you want to be seen as a fighter so you can say, yeah, he gets this. he doesn't thing he has this locked up yet. >> i'm with duffy. you want to be seen as someone fighting if people especially when people are hurting. chris: i think you want to win. [laughter] >> one of the rights of every presidential election, the center of new york politics, the new york catholic archdiocese entails great political humor. >> let's just say that some in the media have a certain way of looking at things when suddenly i pulled ahead in some of the major polls. what was the headline? polls show obama leading from behind. and i've already seen early reports from tonight's dinner. headline, obama embraced by catholic

the falcons 4-0, redskins only three-point underdogs. a surprise there, primarily because of pat ryan, the number one rated quarterback in the nfl. rg3, the fourth rated quarterback in the nfl. he says, you know what, we are depending on everybody, not just me. >> coach talked to us today. the biggest thing is, we're winning as a team. you know, its's not that any individual people are just going out and doing things on their own. everybody's contributing. alfred is running the ball extremely well. our receivers are blocking downfield. to hit that many targets and show that we can win as a team, and then we do have guys like the monster games as well. the future is looking bright for us. but we also know we've got to take it one day at atime. and we're doing that. >> guys, i've been covering the redskins for seven years now and this is going to be the first home game i haven't been to. and i think i'll have a pretty good reason why, because i'll be covering the nationals in the play-offs. sports fans in d.c., a lot of choices of things t

it doesn't matter if it's underdog, we're going to play our game. >> sandoval, 4 hits last night, 1 hit tonight hitting 7-14 for the series. and we can't say this enough. this bunt, everything's been going the giants' way. if i'm detroit, and i'm looking for an excuse, how about that ground-ball that hit the ball last insight and this punt that stays fair? the good teams make their breaks. and indeed, that loaded the bases, and the double play ball off the bat of crawford brought in the first run of the game. the giants would add one more, and that's how the sacrificed bunt went. passed over last week for a lincecum start and arguably last night so zito could start, madison bumgarner, his numbers in the postseason, 11 and 1/4 e.r.a. and he had supposedly -- what they tell you, they may be leaning one way or the other, but they said he had a mechanical flaw that dave righetti found out and then some. and ryan zoegel song will -- vogelsong will start on side night. and it's a little chilly? >> it's going to be cold. just about freezing there . >> so wear a jacket when we're watching. [ la

. >> they're the underdogs, the team that should have won! >> great team, great playoffs, lost my voice. >> still believe in the team? oh, look at the payroll we had! amazing, amazing run. i enjoyed the ride. >> how can you be angry? who would have thought they would have gotten this far? i'm nothing but happy. it is what it is. >> oakland a's! >> oak rand rules! >> that i always made it happen -- >> it was a great year for them. i'm really happy with what they did. >> we had a great season. the only thing, we didn't go further. other than that, we still believe in the team. >> we were with it all the way to the end. you couldn't leave till the end of the game because anything can happen! >> still instbl >> still believe! >> gary will have more on the a's and the giants and the rest of postseason baseball coming up in sports. >>> our record stands for itself. >> they first blamed the youtube video, now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket >> that's a bunch of malarkey. >> the first and only vice presidential debate held tonight in k

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they're really an underdog team. they don't have any superstars aside from buster posey. so they're playing to their -- beyond they're capabilities, i think. >> they're just the best team. the present cied of -- kind of at tooth, doing -- kind of attitude. doing their best. so going to take it all. >> even though the giants play well on the road the fans are happy they're home. the first two games are played here at at&t park, and if necessary, games six and seven will be played here as well. live in san francisco. lillian kim, abc-7 news. >> let's get a quick update what's going on inside the park. >> mike: giants and cardinals underway. the score is 2-0 cardinals off a home run. third inning. madison bumgarner gave it up. this is a great matchup because both teams were not expected to be here. the giants were down 2-0 in the best of five series before winning three straight games in cincinnati to defeat the reds. the cardinals were trailing 6-0 in game five the washington nationals. giants and cardinals the last two teams teams to win the world series, so a great series