when you include the underemployed and the marginally attached then you end up with the you six number which is currently at seventeen percent but i was there something else out there too because you know in reading your piece you also mention a website called shadowstats dot com and they have an even higher never you know if we look at november the unemployment rate of the government gave us was nine point eight percent the you six said it was seventeen percent this website says that it's twenty two point six percent so where is he getting those figures. john williams of shadowstats came up with a an unemployment rate that included the long term marginally attached the b.l.s. uses for there are marginally attached workers there's a shorter term marginally attached which are people who haven't looked for work. within a year or have looked looked for work within a year john williams of shadowstats has them include people who have not looked for work in over a year which were removed during the clinton administration so his. unemployment rate in clude those longer term marginally attache

caller: well i consider myself underemployed. i have a jurs doctorate degree in law and i am looking -- working currently as a substitute teacher which i'm averaging one to two days a week. i think it's absolutely crazy to have as much education as i have and as much experience working with the federal government as a systems analyst and can't find any work. and on those factors that are factored in that the jobless rate is 9.8%, those numbers are not really accurate. and the reason being, there are just black people alone are at least 40%, close to 40% out of work. so if they factor all those numbers in it's going to be much higher than the level at 9.8. when i worked with the federal government prior to going to law school itself, i have career status which means any time for the rest of my life i can always get a job back in and i've been applying for over three years and cannot get in. i have a friend that also has worked for the federal government and she has been looking over two years, can't get in. my sister in new jersey

i feel passionate about the needs of the underemployed. i focus on job opportunities for disabled individuals. i can contribute recommendations and solutions from a grass-roots perspective. i feel i'm a good candidate because i can speak from an educated perspective. i'm familiar with the challenges and gaps in the system. i also have firsthand experience in successful employment outcomes and can lend some ideas and solutions. thank you very much. supervisor campos: thank you very much. jeanne zarka -- my understanding is she has withdrawn her application. ok, janet gomes. ok. joseph ramirez-forcier. >> good morning. i'm the managing director at the positive resource center. we serve people with mental health disabilities and with hiv. i have led the program into accreditation so that the commission of rehabilitation facilities where -- we are a community services provider with the department of rehabilitation. we are also funded with the department of public health. i am also a co-chair for hiv prevention planning. i have dedicated my lif

a pain that they're experiencing in part because they are unemployed or underemployed or working two or three jobs to support themselves and their families. we all heard that pain, we all heard that concern. at the same time as we heard the concern about the pain of economic uncertainty, we heard the concern and the fear about deficits and debt. so, my colleagues, we are confronted with two twin challenges. growing our economy, creating jobs, and confronting this gargantuan deficit that puts at risk our economy and the future of our children. the american public would hope that we would come together and pass that on which we can agree. that owhich we can compromise. this house in fact passed two pieces of legislation. weeks ago and months ago. months ago, we passed legislation which would give certainty, and my republican colleagues talk about certainty and i agree with them. we need to give certainty to families, certainly to businesses, and yes, certainty to those whoever worried about estates. they'll expect that of us. and we passed 12 months ago the continuation of then-existin

combined we see at a time when there's twenty five to thirty million people who are unemployed or underemployed where forty seven million americans can't go to a doctor when they're sick there's limitless funds limitless resources for the war budget the military budget is hardly ever questioned that town that is dominated by its industrial complex. advertisements lined the metro. commercial showcase the latest hardware and politicians. cave into the lobbying campaigns and you can see it by the budget figures that the united states is in fact a warfare state it's addicted to militarism its addicted to war spending and its addicted to war profits this is where the war profiteers are headquartered tearing over the pentagon this place is known as contractors row and it's from this clear point we see the revolving door through which employees from the defense contracting enterprise one job to the government and likewise a significant number of officials in the government the pentagon and the cia fly into jobs in the military industrial complex despite this military contractors spend close to thirty

as we enter the holiday season we can't forget that one in six americans is now unemployed or underemployed. and so we must do more to create jobs. in a recent speech to the european central bank ben bernanke went about as far as he could go on the question of fiscal policy. and he urged congress to do more to help the near-term economy while at the same time taking steps to bring down long-term deficits. here's what he said: "on its current economic tra john kerry trirks the united states runs the risk of seeing millions of workers unemployed or underemployed for many years. as a society, we should find that outcome unacceptable. monetary policy is working in support of both economic recovery and price stability, but there are limits to what can be achieved by the central bank alone ... [a] fiscal program that combines near-term measures to enhance growth with strong, confidence-inducing steps to reduce longer-term structural deficits would be an important complement to the policies of the federal reserve." the chairman, i think, has it right. he is clearly saying the fed alone does not --

a pain that they're experiencing in part because they are unemployed or underemployed or working two or three jobs to support themselves and their families. we all heard that pain, we all heard that concern. at the same time as we heard the concern about the pain of economic uncertainty, we heard the concern and the fear about deficits and debt. so, my colleagues, we are confronted with two twin challenges. growing our economy, creating jobs, and confronting this gargantuan deficit that puts at risk our economy and the future of our children. the american public would hope that we would come together and pass that on which we can agree. that on which we can compromise. this house in fact passed two pieces of legislation. weeks ago and months ago. months ago, we passed legislation which would give certainty, and my republican colleagues talk about certainty and i agree with them. we need to give certainty to families, certainly to businesses, and yes, certainty to those whoever worried about estates. they'll expect that of us. and we passed 12 months ago the continuation of then-exist

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i think people know a lot of people displaced or underemployed there.ople can go to our website at abc7news.com to find out more about the bay area organizations we're helping. thanks for coming out this morning. >> thank you. >> eric, i'm going to send it back to you guys. we'll be here all day. come down, make donations through our website at abc7news.com. >> nick, thank you very much. and the umbrella was a great idea. 5:49 now. >> yeah, for nick and all the folks going out there to help out today. >> let's correct one thing though. the website degrees is abc7news.com if you'd like to find out more about the food drive. >> so raining all day? >> off and on, i really think so. going to come in in waves. one health wave in the north bay and all of us get a healthy wave from midmorning to mid afternoon. you need the umbrella all day. flight arrival delays into sfo. show you what's going on. step away, go to abc7news.com and check out our flight tracker and check out live doppler 7 hd and find out if there's rain in your neighborhood or on the way. light

but it is still, you know, we're obviously you mentioned 17% being underemployed or unemployed.igures are not going to go down a lot next year. what we're going to see is we're going to see a lot of hiring with temporary workers. at one point, people think a quarter of the u.s. workforce could be temporary. now that could be bad news or you could see it as flexible, and you're going to have to have a flexible career. but i think in certain sectors, certainly health care is an area that's growing. sectors where you have a lot of education, computer services, for example. there are going to be pockets of job growth. but the reality is that it's still a shouldish economy, and companies are reluctant to hire. and when they do hire, they tend to be hiring on contract. >> what we have seen, however, is that more companies are on the lookout for people to hire. so, like you mentioned, health care is a big space. temporary workers. and retail workers as a result of this holiday season, we're hearing, could maybe even hire some of those temporary workers full-time next year. >> i think t

the governor, the mayor, is when you have a situation where we have the incredible unemployment, underemployed. people working jobs they don't want. people afraid of losing their homes, they are angry. they have a the right to be angry. and that's where it shows. i am absolutely convinced, and i know this isn't conventional wisdom, nothing will help this pros move forward that when the economy gets better, americans feel better about themselves and their country and members of congress can do more negotiations. >> people want to feel safe and secure. no doubt about it. >> they want a place to live. they want food. if they don't get it, they're angry. and you can't really blame them. >> it's simple stuff. sir, i thank you for your time. former senator from delaware. appreciate it. >> agreement. thanks for having me on. >> plus heartbreaking letters to santa. kids are asking for the essentials. the bare basics. so is that a sign of how the economy is really doing? we're going to talk about that and explore what's going to the north pole here on msnbc. it's different -- it's calcium citrate, so i

and with 26 million americans, as you started out by saying either underemployed, unemployed or discouragedcareer. i'm really bullish on starting a small business which isn't right four everybody. but if you have that idea that you've been sitting on you now definitely the time to dive in and do it. there's a whole lot of rye resources and help available. this whole idea of the free agent, that nobody's coming there's no government bailout to help us. there's not a big blank check coming. there's not an economic turnaround, it's up for to us take the control. >> you have a good feeling about the new year don't you? >> i do because i'm always optimistic and i'm excited for blats what's ahead. >> i know that you are. tory, have a great day. >> you, too. >> visit our website abcnews.com/gma, tory is always there answering any of your questions. >>> time now for the next final effort on the "gma" advice guru search kimberly bounds from utah. >> my best holiday advice is don't take anything personally. you may have some relatives that are grouchy this time of year. and if anyone says anything ru

, because there's 15 million unemployed officially, there's another 15 million that are either underemployed or have just given up, can't find jobs. >> mr. gerard, always a pleasure. good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. now let's turn to the reverend of jesse jackson, president of the rainbow/push coalition. hopefully the workers of america and those who have fallen on hard times will have a seat at the table. reverend, what should they do? >> well, i think it's important that the president did meet with business today but not to be a white house conference on poverty, despairity and on economic justice. he's been very good to business, they've not been so good back to him. for example, he bailed out the banks with zero interest but they did not lend and reinvest, therefore you have a rise in joblessness and the rise in the home foreclosures. just this past week bank of america now said it will revive its home foreclosures for for example. he bailed out gm, and then one market of a buick is china, and so there must be some real incentives to reinvest in america. i see a tax bill

over 27 million americans are out of work, have given up looking for work or are underemployed. the percent of hispanics out of work last montrose to 13% -- month rose to 13% and black americans rose to 15%. don't the democrats know this? are they listening to the voters? do they care? this bill proves that there is a total disconnect between the democratic party and the american people. the majority has brought this bill to the floor without holding any hearings on its impact and without committee approval, so members don't know how the bill would work or not work. in fact, the text we are considering tonight was only introduced last night. as usual under the democratic regime, no amendments are allowed. they have even eliminated the one motion republicans are supposedly guaranteed as a way to address the people's concerns, the motion to recommit. what happened to the democrats' pro-- promise to give americans 24 hours to read the bills? and what happened to their promise of an open and fair process? these and other promises disappeared long before the election, which is anothe

and if you figure in all the people who are underemployed, who've lost their job and now must work twor three jobs to make even less than what they used to make, to barely get by to provide for their families, nearly one out of five people of working age in florida are unemployed or underemployed. we're in the top three in mortgage foreclosures. in the first half of the year, floridians were number one on being behind on their mortgage payments. and although there are some spots of hope and some things to look at as potentially growing our economy again, we just recently found out that in southeast florida, which has in many ways been grounds for mortgage foreclosures, that mortgage foirkses have gone up more than 25% over the second quarter. times are tough all across this country. the speem spoke and they sent new meme to washington hop be take -- who will be taking office. most will take office in january to get this country back to work. what they asked this congress to do is to focus on job creation. the second thing they want this congress to do is to stop the out-of-control spend

ad in discouraged workers, underemployed people in your closer to 20% of americans who are facing somedegree in of economic dislocation. if you looked at targeted audiences like african-americans you have 40% unemployment. doesn't matter what your philosophy is or your approach. those numbers in my judgment are intolerable. so my conclusion about all this is to try to demonize people whether it be the tea party, people on the far left whatever, is really more than just bad politics. it is destructive of our broader national interests. we all enjoy it the export of politics. i enjoy going on fox news and talking about the issues but i try to tell things as i see them to the straight. i can tell you bill and john r. two of the smartest people you're going to get and rather than have me go on defending things that bill find intolerable and john finds only barely palatable i think i will mercifully stop and take your questions. thank you. [applause] >> here we go. >> you use a word in what you said in your talk -- you used the word the they. >> didn't hear the question. problem with my ear

you add in discouraged workers, underemployed people, and you're closer to 16-20% of americans facingsome degree of economic dislocation. if you look at targeted audiences like african-american youth, you got 40% unemployment. it doesn't matter your philosophy or approach is, those numbers in my judgment are intolerable. my conclusion about all of this is to try to demonize people whether it be the tea party, people on the far left, whatever, is really, really more than just bad politics. it is destructive of our broader, national interest. we all enjoy the sport of politics. i enjoy going on fox news and talking about the issues, but i try to tell things as i see them. to be straight, bill and john are the two smartest people you're going to get, and rather have me go on defending things that bill press finds intolerable, and john avlon finds barely palatable, i will mercifully stop and take your questions. thank you. [applause] .. >> i wonder why it is that we talk of they doing something, and then at the same time we talk of less government doing something. it sounds to me like --

underemployed. creat and so, we must do more to create jobs. in a recent speech to the european central bank, federal reserve chairman bernanke wentre about as far as he could go on e the question of fiscal policy. and he urged congress to do more stepelp the near-term economy, while at the same time taking steps to bring down long-termhe deficit. here's what he said. thenited on its current economic trajectory, the united states runs the risk of seeing millions of workers unemployed or many underemployed for many years. as a society, we should find that outcome unacceptable. bothe monetary policy is written in support of both economic stabili recovery and price stability. the day our limit to what can be achieved by the central bank alone. a fiscal program that combines near-term measures to enhance growth with strong confidence inducing steps to reduce longer-term structural deficit would be important complement tf the policies of the federalhair, reserve. the chairman, i think, has a fed right. he is clearly saying the fed k alone is not in

to 9.8% unemployment, more than 15 million americans now are unemployed and millions more are underemployednt's chief economic adviser will be with me during the 5:00 p.m. eastern hour and we are going to talk about what needs to be done, what can be done, what the administration should be doing. going from 9.6% unemployment to 9.8% unemployment, that's not the right direction and, as you know, if only 39,000 jobs were created last month, that's way below the usually -- you need at least 125 or 150,000 jobs just to stay even, because of the additional people coming into the jobs' market every month. it is a pretty depressing number. we will talk a little bit about that with austin gooan goolsbee. >>> the little battle of the books right now and president george w. bush is beating sarah palin. his book is number one on the best seller's list. her book is number two. they both are selling a lot of copies of this book. month are than 1 million of hers in print. more than 2 million of his in print. they are doing very, very well. his is doing somewhat better than hers. >> i am you can taing to

does not include the millions of americans who have simply given up on finding work or who are underemployed that with arianna huffington is editor of the huffingpost.com. and also a professor from maryland. and also, let's bring in john king who is host of "john king usa" which is beginning at the top of the hour. surprising news, john? >> yes, many economists thought that it would be better, but this is a slap in the face, and sobering numbers, because the economy is producing jobs, but at an anemic pace, and there is center stage at the debate of tax cuts, and they don't use the word stimulus anymore, but it is infrastructure spending. and this tells americans, wow. >> and something new on the agenda to turn it around? >> no. we are having a big debate now about tax cuts, and the republicans immediately seized on this, and said that this is proof that you cannot raise taxes on anybody. the democrats want to set the limit for $1 million and the republicans say, a ha! more proof you not do that, and the democrats say to extend the emergency unemployment benefits and republicans say yes, but

this will tremendously high rate of unemployment and particularly when you figure those who are underemployed and yet this majority is still, even now in december we are still not willing to just say across the board, we are not going to create tax cuts. that's not even out there, but just extend the curnt tax rate. we aren't going to play class warfare, of course the people who make more money should pay taxes and that's why the rate is 35% instead of 10% at the lowest rate. and so, it just grieves me. i know people that are out of work and i know there are people that i've talked to who say i have to find out what my taxes are going to be, what the tax rate is going to be, because if it's going up, i can't hire anybody. if it's going to stay where it is, i can hire some people. now that's a merry christmas when you give people a job. you eliminate the class warfare going on in this body and just say, forget the games, this is too serious. we are playing with people's lives tired of the gamesmanship, forget the federal government, just get out of the way so we can create jobs in america and

were standing in the bread lines pretty you halt migration when you have 25 million unemployed or underemployed, but we will not do it because we are addicted to immigration that happens in perpetuity for ever -- forever. i have been on unemployment for three months. i already have a part-time job. allowed to make an extra close to 100 on the books. i do everything by the book. gaining back about what i was making. but i went from $25 an hour to $9.50 an hour, because of illegal immigration, which took my trade. my brother is about to lose his house. most of the contractors have no work. but the mexicans brought in from philadelphia in these huge trucks to our little town, they are smiling from ear to ear, they are working everywhere -- landscapers, and the american guys, the tractors said idol and the roofers go out of business. we seem to have more compassion for third world immigrants. one more thing i want to say. somebody says to wants to stay home and collect? i could tell you from personal experience, you do get lazy. you do have a tendency to drink beer and watch reality shows. there is

as we enter the holiday season we can't forget that one in six americans is now unemployed or underemployed. and so we must do more to create jobs. in a recent speech to the european central bank ben bernanke went about as far as he could go on the question of fiscal policy. and he urged congress to do more to help the near-term economy while at the same time taking steps to bring down long-term deficits. here's what he said: "on its current economic tra john kerry trirks the united states runs the risk of seeing millions of workers unemployed or underemployed for many years. as a society, we should find that outcome unacceptable. monetary policy is working in support of both economic recovery and price stability, but there are limits to what can be achieved by the central bank alone ... [a] fiscal program that combines near-term measures to enhance growth with strong, confidence-inducing steps to reduce longer-term structural deficits would be an important complement to the policies of the federal reserve." the chairman, i think, has it right. he is clearly saying the fed alone does not --

when we talk about 9%, 10% unemployment, if you add in the underemployed and you add in the people who've quit looking for work, we're at a much higher figure. there is a huge amount of job insecurity out there. people are feeling the pain. as the caller said, it is through no fault of their own. many of these people are looking hard and not able to find work. host: we have a just a few minutes late. this viewer from dallas tweets about the rules discussion. what to think about the nine- hour effort last week -- what did you think about the nine- last week?t guest: that was the first time when i've seen an actual filibuster in the tradition of the all-time senate. what the tradition was is we had respect for each other. we have respect for senators who were in opposition to things we were going to do. those senators came to the floor. they debated and made their case. after they finish making their case, they let us get to an upper down vote on the bill. that is not what we have today. there are a shadow filibusters', phantom of filibusters. is a serious situation that is deteriorated sig