. >> undergrad michigan state and ph.d. from case western? >> it is in neuroscience with research on alzheimer's disease. the focus has ben been molecular biology. as far as creation research looking at origin of life and dna similarities to seven dr. david dewitt have you always felt the way that you do? >> no. in fact, going through school, public school school, abolition, i did attend church but but looking at the compatibility i said evolution must have been the way god would create the partly through college i began to see that as unworkable but in particular it requires millions of years of death to get from the veba to the law school. millions of years but the bible is cleared death, this after the garden. as a result of sen. it is a fundamental conflict and how it cuts to the foundation of gospel to pay the penalty of death when it is judgment day it is the end of death is the intrusion into the world. after god creates and says this is good after everything, very good to have a death true than wasteful process to have to seize and th

. >> guest: new york city, and undergrad at michigan state university. >> host: why did you come to liberty? >> guest: i have to say the best answer is god definitely picked this for my life. i wanted to teach and had given up on that happening, given the path i had pursued, and he made this available to me. the reason i made it personally is i can't think of a greater way to spend my time than training the next generation in the values i hold and liberty university holds, and sending them out to there transform our legal culture. >> host: so, at what point does the lisa miller story end? >> guest: i would -- i don't know when it ended. legally, when she is found or she comes back, and isabella is 16, 17, 18, and obviously can't be forced to visit somebody. i don't know when that will end if don't think the lisa miller story -- i don't hope it ends. imhoping this message in this book resonates with people struggling with same-sex relationships, resonates with leaders and churches. i don't want it to end which is why i wrote the book so people would take this to heart and do

>> i went to law school in new york city, an undergrad with michigan state university. >> why did you come to liberty? >> i would have to say the best answer is god definitely pick this for my life. i wanted to teach, kind of given up on that happening, given the path i had pursued. he made this available to me. the reason i made it personally is i can't think of a great way to spend my time and training, and send them out there to train our legal culture. >> at what point does the lisa miller story and? >> i don't, i don't know when it is the legally it will in when she is down or she comes back, when isabel is 16, seven, 18 and can't be forced to visit somebody. i don't know when that is going to end. i don't think the lisa miller store, i don't hope that nstic i'm hoping this message and this book in particular resonates with people struggling with same-sex relationships, and what they can do. i don't want it to in which is why i wrote the book so people would take this art into something. >> are you currently working on other cases similar to this at all?

. >> you got your undergrad from michigan state, a ba in biochemistry. >> yes, vs. >> and a from northwestern. >> it is in euro signs. i did research and still do research on alzheimer's disease. the focus of my research has been in molecular biology, and so i tend, as far as my creation research, focus that in the area of origin of life, and similarities. >> dr. dewitt, have you always, when it comes to creation and evolution, have you always felt the way that you do? >> no. in fact, going through school, through public school, i was taught evolution. i did attend church, but i did what i think a lot of people do better going to church to study science, i tried to combine into previously about compatibility. i tried to combine them and say well, evolution must be the way that god used to create. but it was partly through college that i began to see that as unworkable. in particular because evolution requires millions of years of death for us to get from and unequal to the law schools. millions and millions of years, but the bible is very clear that death comes after at its and regard death i