and -- and undergraduate students, and and access to this original material. and research to be done on this material that i have. all of the notes that survived, and some examples of working around, the title that he wants to use. and then he has all these notes that he kept. and a great notion, and and write them down and categorize them and how he is carrying out their story. and writing into the writing process, and here is the document when he is writing the characters, more detail there. the mother notes, everybody else gets a great notion to jump into the river and drown. and the notion and people who get this notion, the river figures large in his story. here is the earliest manuscript for a great notion and text script. people have gone through and making changes and corrections on that manuscript. when ken kesey and mary pranksters got back from their road trip to new york, they through a number of parties in san francisco that became known as the acid test. ken kesey was arrested for marijuana possession which seems so quaint nowadays especially in

when he was an undergraduate he kept this a journal, and here it says kk. and it's very extensive and detailed, and so this is really a great primary source for anybody doing research about his experiences when he was a student at the university. you know, talks about sports events, talks about his relationship with fay. he met her when you are both in junior high and were married under at the university of oregon. let's see, it was 1956 when they got married. after he graduated from the university of oregon in 1959, ken kesey went down to the bay area to study creative writing with wallace stegner, and later malcolm crowley at stanford university in the creative writing program there. when he was there he wrote extensively with, to his friend, came babs. as assembly of of the letter we have in the collection. this was in early one from august, some of 1959. and somebody who was an undergraduate at the university of oregon came to our repository in 1998 to read all the letters and then he did annotations about each of these letters. so not only does the sch

went to wesleyan university in connecticut as an undergraduate. then went south to duke university for graduate school. my first book on the voting rights act of 1965 had begun as my undergraduate thesis. was published by yale university press when i was in grad school. my second book on the fbi's pursuit of dr. king came out in 1981. got a fair amount of attention. and that was the lead up to my big biography of dr. king, bearing the cross, that won a pulitzer in 1987. why did it win a pulitzer? 1987. i said why? >> i think one way i would answer that is that the pulitzer board at that time had a number of people on it who were former civil rights journalists. claude sitton being one. >> new york times, yes. >> so they were familiar with civil rights historiography, and if i can say so, what a significant step forward that book represented compared to earlier work. back in 1986, civil rights historiography was just starting to gain strength. it's a whole lot more active a field now than it was when i started interviewing people in 1979. >> what d

arrogant --very erudite undergraduate thesis. the overlap between barack's life, hawaii, indonesia, no father, his mother traveling the , and between genevieve's life is very striking. sheila, half dutch, half japanese. on the paternal dutch side of her family, her grandparents are honored in the israeli holocaust memorial for helping protect jews in the netherlands during world war ii. likewise, had lived in paris for a time, written a very erudite undergraduate thesis. these were all very impressive young ladies. sheila jager appeared here, and we had no knowledge she was ever associated with barack obama. just to be able to see and hear her, this is back in 2013. seconds oft run 15 her talking and come back and ask you more about her. >> the cold war in asia was coming to an end, but interestingly the site between north and south korea was shrinking up. this is the beginning of south korea's rise in economic power. brian: when did you first discover who she was? had she ever talked to anybody else? barack is2009, once already

we have a great undergraduate education.thought we put those two in place, and we would get socioeconomic diversity in the undergraduate student body. about a dozen years ago, we looked at how we were doing, and found we had 7% of students who were eligible for federal pell grants that go to the least well-off families. it is not just the very poor. pell grant's go to the bottom 50% of the entire income? chris: that is correct. you are looking at an underrepresentation at a factor of six to seven. from our standpoint, that was something we needed to change for a number of reasons. we needed to change it because we wanted to be extraordinary at what we're doing. ifneed to change it because we are going to bridge the divide that exists in society that we were told about earlier, we need to bring people together from different grounds and we because thege it effect of a college education at a place like prince and for a student coming out of a disadvantaged background, can be utterly transformative in the student life. all the

i worked my way in undergraduate degree and i didn't know right away that it was going to be a book. it actually wasn't until michael passed away in 2011 that i sort of pulled all of that writing and i think i can turn into a story that would honor his vision that that was an important thing to capture. >> that turn intoed under desert sky. what are you doing in tucson now? >> i live up in flag staff now. i'm a science writer. i didn't know i was going to be a science writer and this book really launched me into that career and i'm working on -- i've got a second book out called mythical river and i'm working on a third one. >> the planetary lab is doing wonderful things. they are still research about solar system. only recently we got the first close-up pictures of pluto which were fantastic. all kinds of surprises there. and then, of course, there's asteroids. we think asteroid maybe the thing that seeded our planet with life and molecules and water. that's kind of a hypothesis they want to test. >> under desert skies is the name of the book how tucson mapped the way to the moon an

duncan: many years ago i received an undergraduate gree in journalism and reporter on daily newspaper for one year. in those years there was a clear separation between the front page and editorial page. i don't believe i have ever read a more biased, partisan opinionated paragraph than in a quote news story than one on the front page of yesterday's "washington post." philip rucker does not now desoist title of journalist but a democratic or left wing hat. he wrote a traditional president would have recreated, quote, carefully to the london attacks by instilling calm, being judicious, and appealing to the country's better angels. instead he accused president trump of reacting impulsively, stroking panic and fear, being indiscreet with details, and kept blasting on it to advocate for one of his polarizing policies and advance a personal feud. apparently mr. ruck certificate so blinded by hatred for the president can he not see straight and has written one of the most unfair, one-sided articles i have ever read in a quote, news story, in what used to be a newspaper. i yield back. the spe

i did this over four years i've got my undergraduate degree by a doing interviews did they do right away it would be a book but not in tel drake passed away in 2011 that i pulled the ball out of the door that i thought i kid turn this into a story to order his vision. >> that turned into under desert skies. what are you doing now?. >> now i live it flagstaff as a science writer so this project launched me into their career i have a second book out and i am working on the third talking about planetary catastrophes. one is about water issues of the southwest my second book and the vision for that book was a mythical reverb -- river that stayed on maps over 75 years but it did not exist there is no oh river flowing from the great salt lake to california with this abundant water we use that as of metaphor to think about how we think of water and the ability to assist a nest. >> howdahs tucson get its water?. >> some from the oer but lot comes from the colorado river 300 miles away it is a very long canal and a write extensively about it constantly bringing water from other places or can we l

we have what we think is a great undergraduate education. we had thought that we put those two in place, we would get socioeconomic diversity in the undergraduate student body. about a dozen years ago, we looked at how we were doing and found that we had about 7% of students who were eligible for federal pel grants that go to the least well off families. >> to interrupt tore a second, it's not just the very poor, pel grants go to the bottom 40 to 50% of the income. >> that's correct, you're looking at an underrepresentation of a factor of 6 to 7 and, from our standpoint, that's something we needed to change for a number of different reasons. we needed to change it because if we want to be extraordinary at what we do, we need to seek tallfront every sector of society. we need to change it because if we're going to bridget the divides that exist in society that we talked about earlier, we need to be brig people together from different backgrounds, and we need to change it because the effect of a college education at a place like princeton, for

when an undergraduate, he kept this journal, and here it says "k.k." and it is very extensive and detailed, so this is really a great primary source for anybody doing research about his experiences when he was a student at the university. events, talksorts about his relationship with fay. he met her when they were both in junior high. married when they were at the university of oregon. it was 1956 when they got married. yeah. 1959, kenraduated in kesey went down to the bait area to -- bay area to study writing and in the creative writing program. he wrote extensively with his -- to his friend, and here a sampling of the letters we have the collection. this is an early one from august, summer of 1959. was anebody who undergraduate at the university of oregon came to our repository in 1998 to read all the letters, and then he did and occasions about each of these letters. scholar have the access to the original letter, but they have these annotations and abstracts of the letters that tell the researcher detail about who the people are in the letter that

mecca from evergreen college, the undergraduate from evergreen college doesn't have life experience the party that took identity and made that more important -- more important than life experience ended up with an inexperienced candidate being pushed forward by a bunch of rich liberals from the left coast and at the right coast. that's what happened. >> jesse: it's exactly what. tonight did not look like a president in his 30s. in approval ratings. he looked pretty fired up. >> dana: i thought you meant in age [laughs] he looks very happy. >> jesse: even the polls are fake or he's president pushing a popular agenda. >> dana: he takes trips out to the midwest, and they are entertained and energized. it further solidifies their support for him. that support is not going to go out everywhere. everyone in this room will remember that night for the rest of their lives. president obama had that abilit ability. bill clinton. george bush. reagan had it. hillary clinton never had that type of connection. the other thing -- she did, private internet interconnection. they took a district where

the new hampshire -- is helping undergraduates and graduate students with scholarships, fellowships and internships and other research grants and education programs like -- every state is space-based. unfortunately they have full 18 budget request for nasa cuts many the programs they keep the agency connected to the rest of america. eliminates nasa education mission directorate including the space grants. nasa education programs have had challenges but i don't think the way to meet those challenges is to eliminate the program. mr. lightfoot when you and i met in my office we agreed one of nasa's most important jobs is to help kids learn to love science and technology and i look forward to working with you and the chairman to ensure that nasa can continue to help inspire and train the next generation of technical workers whether they are building rockets are building american industry in the private sector. overall nasa's budget request of 19.1 billion, a cut of 3% below the fy2017 level but those cuts weren't applied equally. in addition to eliminating education programs the budget prop

the rate for new federal undergraduate and graduate loans will rise from this year's rate of 3.76% to 4.45% this weekend. the increase also applies to new federal plus loans that parents take out. as the economy strengthens, the treasury department is charging more to borrow money, so there's not much family can do now. however -- >> it's possible to get a lower rate after you graduate by refinancing your loan. but you have to have good credit typically in order to qualify for that. >> americans currently carry a staggering $1.3 trillion in student debt. >>> tonight, nbc 4 responds to a d.c. man's ticket trouble. not only did his car get towed, but he wound up paying for someone else's parking tickets. after trying to sort it out on his own for a month, he decided to contact consumer reporter >> reporter: driving in the city is not always easy. and finding a parking spot? good luck. this man decided to ditch his car when he moved to de.c. 30 years ago. >> how do you get around? >> bus, uber, zipcar. >> reporter: but one recent zipcar trip didn't go as planned. >> i went down to the wh

the new hampshire space grant is inspiring a love of science and k-12 students in helping undergraduate and graduate students through scholarship, fellowships and internship. the research grants and education like space graha space grant, every state is a space state. unfortunately the budget request for nasa cuts many of the programs that keep the agency connected to the rest of america. it eliminates nasa education mission including the space grant and app score. the programs have had challenges but i don't think the way to meet those challenges is to illuminate the program. mr. lightfoot, when you and i met my office we agreed one of nasa's most important jobs is to help kids learn to love science and technology. i look forward to working with you and the chairman to ensure nasa can continue to help inspire and train the next generation of technical workers whether they are building rockets or american industry and products in the private sector. overall the budget request is 19.1 billion. that's a cut of 3% below the fy 2017 level. those cuts weren't applied equally. in addition to

contacted by biological children that resulted in participating a sperm donation program when i was undergraduate in college. >> undergrad, his college roommate was premed. he heard about this class focused on women's community and lesbian couples looking to have kids. he decided to get involved and made a deposit. >> you could be anonymous or identity release. when you're identity release when they turn 18, these kids can look you up. >> as some of these children grew up they started looking for him and reaching out and making contact. in total 12 kids from the ages of 17 to 23 have reached out, but also reached out to each other. they created this little quasi half sibling family. i never met him but seems awesome. >> it's my privilege to know them, that they are willing to know me. >> they have all found this connection, and they are all finding something else from it. it's such a wonderful story. there's something really cool on the horizon. >> a few months ago, these kids all got organized and lined up this trip to mexico and started asking who wants to go. all 12 of them totally committed.

>> i've been at usa since 2012 and i went to undergraduate in northwestern and then actually came and got my phd here at the university of arizona and then i went and taught at uc santa barbara for about ten years. then i decided that desert was calling and came back. i joined the faculty here in 2012. i got interested in digital process by accident. i was studying social movements already and in the run-up to the 2000 election, which you may recall also resulted in electoral inversion, we had the situation where people on the left trying to decide if i vote for gore or do i vote for nader and people on the right were trying to decide about for buchanan or profession. in the run-up to the election, there were small number of websites they got started and this was very early on in sort of public internet use but got started that said hey, we are going to game the electoral college and help you stop votes across state lines are within a state so that you can see multi- textured preferences for voting realize. so if i was on the left, for instance, and i wanted gore to win but i wanted t

the rates for new federal undergraduate and graduate loans will rise from this year's rate of 3.76% to5% this weekend. the increase also applies to new federal plus loans that parents take out. as the economy strengthens, the treasury department is charging more to borrow money. not much that families can do now. however -- >> it's possible to get a lower rate after you graduate by refinancing your loans. but you have to have good credit typically in order to qualify for that. >>> americans currently carry a staggering $1.3 trillion in student debt. >>> technology is evolving in the workplace but some employees are struggling to keep up. half of the highest paying jobs in america require some coding knowledge. there is help for people wanting to get new school. flatiron school is part of a growing sector in tech education. to close the skills gap through short term tech focus training. >>> stay with us. "news4 today" continues at 5:00 a.m. >>> good morning he shall. i'm aaron gilchrist. >>> i'm eun yang. a lot of people are getting ready nor work this morning. if you are one of the luc

because as of saturday the rate for new federal undergraduate and graduate loans will rise about .7%. the increase also applies to new federal plus loans that parents take out. in 2015 the average graduate with student loans had $34,000 in debt. with today's rate, over a 20-year payment plan, the interest on that amount would jump from $14,400 to $17,400. that's an additional 3,000 bucks. >> it's going to add up. so it seems like a little bit now, but it's definitely going to add up eventually. >> reporter: as the economy strengthens, the treasury department is charging more to borrow money, so there's not much families can do now. however -- >> it's possible to get a lower rate after you graduate by refinancing your loans, but you have to have good credit typically in order to qualify for that. >> reporter: to get more educational bang for her buck, jarvis is pursuing both a bachelor's and a master's in five years. >> i dreamed about coming to college for such a long time. i'm finally here. it wasn't what i expected it to be financially, but i'm still here. >> reporter: and it's goin

buckeye, undergraduate and mba, career in financial ohio es and also the legislatu legislature. ohio army national guard, since 1985 and served on 2004, 2005 in iraq as battalion commander and earned bronze star for his service. thank you for being the guest. guest: great to be on. asking r two reporters questions with the first name of cott, scott is campaign pro editor for politico and also cast. politico's nerd scott is reporter for the hill, newsmaker.to scott, you are up. guest: thank you for being here. comey, who is r testifying on capitol hill as we that donald id trump told him in the oval ffice that the russia investigation have been a cloud over his administration, cloud used.he word he do you believe that the russian investigation, sort of multi the ed investigations with f.b.i. ones and ones on capitol from the istracting g.o.p. agenda and how do you see these russian investigations races around the country? >> well, i was glad to see mueller, former director mueller named as pecial investigator to look into this. i've supported the house and investigation to do the

guest: that is how penn state made tuition money during undergraduate. i worked as technically what would be a nursing assistant 11:00 to 7:00 and for the first year of college and then switched from 3:00 to 11:00. those are wonderful jobs because you are serving people -- older adults and people with disabilities, but it is tough. it is hard work and yes, this would be the persons act would toable to provide assistance make that type of education more affordable. there is money today in other pots of money. a couple of years ago we passed a bill that i was able to help partsparts of it -- write of it. people who are underemployed go federalr -- there are dollars to assist with job training and quite frankly, especially given the demographics today with -- our .opulation is aging these types of caregivers like nurse assistants -- certified are extremelyts important to have people in those positions. bob, york, hear from pennsylvania. independent. caller: i would like to thank both you gentlemen. i think this is an excellent topic. to give you an idea of

quality of their teaching and awarded a gold, silver or bronze rating. if they want to charge undergraduatesget value for money. nottingham trent, which attracts many students from less well—off backgrounds, achieved the highest award. overall, 59 universities gained a gold. 116 were rated silver and 56 achieved bronze. it is measuring how likely the university is going to be in helping you get a good job. measuring whether the university has got systems in place, and they are going to keep you on your course when things get tough. measuring the effectiveness and speed of feedback on your work. looking at the quality of library and other learning resources. but, some prestigious universities have scored less well. liverpool, the london school of economics and southampton are all members of the elite russell group, but only achieved a bronze. experts have warned that students shouldn't use just these rankings to decide where to study. the nuffield council on bioethics save some social media sites have increased levels of anxiety over body image. this report contains flash photography. social

innovation from sweden to california before, i was back in sweden working at a university and undergraduatee can verify people who they are by their typing. what are they doing now? they are the founders. they we re now? they are the founders. they were on their way to new york yesterday, new office there, and the quy yesterday, new office there, and the guy is running the deal at the university. the reason this is so useful, if you are hacked or suffer a breach, somebody knows your password, this is able to stop them further down the process, it is not once they are in they are in. this extra layer, it is more about catching the individuals, or the knowledge thing. it is about the person themselves. that is the level we have taken this to. as far as the conversations you have with big financial institutions, i suppose it isa financial institutions, i suppose it is a cost, they will have to pay for it, but it may be... they do not pay and a! laughter you want them to pay more, but it is a trade—off, either they will pay it in compensation or upfront like this. security has been around forev

. >> guest: that's how penn state made its tuition money during my undergraduate. i worked as i can give the aun nursing assistant today. 11 to seven, and then for thean first year of college and then switched to a three to 11. it is those are wonderful jobs because you are serving people, older adults and people with disabilities. it is tough. it's hard work. be ayes, this would be the persons act would be able to provide assistance to make the type of education more affordable. there is my knees today in other parts of money, a number of years ago we passed a bill that i was able to help write partsof of it, the workforce innovation opportunities act. the people who are unemployed,, underemployed to go to their career links, there are federal dollars to assist with job training there. this, quite frankly, especially given the demographics today with how a population is aging. in most parts of our country,pe these types of caregivers like nurse assistant, certified nurse assistant are extremely important to have people in those positions. >> host: let's hear from

but i come out baldwin and this is almost -- years ago as an undergraduate student.and i was in my american literature class. and engage both intellectually and the connection that people have to slavery. like what is the connection to black america. black people and to look at that complexion of it. and the clarity of his vision and what it has been called in to assist with brotherhood and what he has meant to articulate the connectedness and here i am to be brought back again in the u.s. and i have to teach baldwin. what has happened to me from those is an understanding that some of the confusions i have that are somehow orchestrated. and then baldwin's speeches defies how predictive he was. he met a lot. he lived until his 60s but also the very idea that his very courageous and fearless that you can actually have the college to articulate the confusion was quite sobering so i'm hoping that in the course of the conversation we can talk about notches baldwin, but also connections a lot of people don't know that is like his father. we think about it it was so profoun

my university in the almost most of the low rank universities as being the destruction of the undergraduate humanities numbers making them financially nonvolatile that's happened to me at kingston so i was given the choice of either teaching four times as much all covering my own salary and i thought all crowd funded because i want to change economics globally not just at kingston i think it's starting a trend i think it is a strength so in the first one to give it a try i'm halfway there is trying to start the trend that i'm halfway there what do you think the biggest stumbling blocks are going to be with. the bracks it talks right now so that they've sorted out. the schedule at the top one week per month and go back and gather and plot complete amateurism on the british side really now that you have got through it with what the negotiators should have read will they when to say the european union was yanis varoufakis is in the room because we read that you realize that the european union was prepared to gang up and intimidate and basically crush the group the greek negotiating team which

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and after 15 years for undergraduates would be paid off. so it's a really specific plan that will allow students to address this. but i think the question and the issue is a much broader one. and i think that in the context of your discussions around a higher ed bill and higher ed reauthorization or starting afresh, this is a real area of concern and one to address. we haven't done a good job of helping students to know what their full menu of options are when pursuing higher education. we've segmented out career and technical education in such a way that it seems like it's a lesser of two in that we've put a higher emphasize on four-year college and university. and i think all of these areas are ones that we have to have robust discussion about as we consider how -- what is the proper role of the federal government in supporting students pursuing higher education in the future? and with the reality of today's world? sen. blunt: senator shelby. sen. shelby: thank you. madam secretary, thank you for your service and thank you for taking on a

it sound wonderful to young people, undergraduates. the problem is it doesn't work.ries don't work. instead of adjusting the theories, rulers try to force humanity to adjust. that's what we are seeing in venezuela. the army is a corporation. they have been bought off. and they are all standing in the way of a real return of democracy. president maduro, this big lumping bernie sanders with a beret and a pistol belt. he's hanging on. he's not the man chavez, his predecessor was. and the country is falling apart. brave people. these aren't campus demonstrations. brave venezuelans have been out in the streets for months. thousands have died, some have disappeared. and they are still out there. kennedy: they are freaking with the worry this is somehow going to spread. and if show so, what are other south american countries planning on doing about it? >> socialism passed it high water mark. but the problem is, it's implosion. and what do you do? >> what do you do? do you have a refugee crisis? if they don't have basic materials, people start pouring over the borders? >> th

he got his graduate degree at where we were undergraduates. you are older, budweiser. that is quite ok. .e are in medicine fields we are not real directors as our parents would probably noticed. david is a professor at nyu's department of history and director of the division of humanities at the nyu school in madison. in 2009 he won a pulitzer prize in history for his portfolio, an american story. a conspiracy so immense, and worse than slavery. professor oshinsky is for broaderwriting audiences. his works have appeared, his articles have appeared in the new york times and the wall street journal, and it is a privilege for me to welcome him here at the tenement museum. [applause] david oshinsky: i think this does work. can you will hear me? first what i would like to do is get the pulitzer thing out of the way. everybody asks the question. so i won for a book on polio. the pulitzer is the only price where they do not announce the finalist. the national book award, there were eight finalists, we eat at the same table. one wins, the others make like they are happy for th

i saw my first in 1979 as an undergraduate student. that help me formulate that i want to have a career in science. that canhe thing really inspire in our students around the country. as you heard already this is a 99 year event. it has been 99 years since a total solar eclipse. to help youed experience that, providing views from our satellite of the eclipse as it is happening. there's two factors involved in whether you will see the eclipse. the geography of where you live. remainder ofn the the united states which will have partial viewing? the other factor is whether they will be clear whether to experience the view. you may not be aware but no one owns and operates all of the nation's weather satellites. high resolution, capable satellites that allow us to view the eclipse from different perspectives. can i have my first graphic? satellitesall of our around the earth that they are in currently. two particular ones, our discover satellite is outside of the earth orbit. outside of the lunar orbit as well. it has a camera on board tha

begin diversity of arizona is thrilled to have this teacher teaching undergraduates on animaly studiesf i were in a canoe and this person surfaced next to me, would i be in danger of being killed?d? >> there is, obviously, something not right. >> white >> white is that out of m bound. you are a bigot to suggest otherwise. >>> can you beat that? >> i willl identify right away s the winner of this competition. i am from wisconsin and we'll talk about beer with a brooklyn brewery is offering a craft beer called gender-neutral to promoto pride month and is a pale ale and is a few different things with the liberals and then brooklyn and craft beer and the rejection of the gender binary, very important. >> you get to deny basic biology and get drunk at the samesa tim. >> everything i like some do in the whole world. >> how can the hippo story notbe win?? >> there is no way that cannot be allowed. if you are what you say you are, okay, hippo lady. >> she said she felt sexy as a hippo. to you both. to you both. >> we will be right back. no. with claim rateguard your rates won't go up just beca

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florida, also a finalist for the book critic circle award and i just learned today that while in undergraduate school iibram was interested in being a journalist working for a newspaper. we essential could have used him in that profession but i'm sure that he has been able to get a lot more accomplished by writing his books. [laughter] >> so we are going to start now and just kind of talk a little bit about the book. so ibram, as a journalist i'm always curious when someone publishes something so compelling, thoroughly researched piece like you, piece of work that you've don't here. did you set out to write a 600-piece page -- piece of nonfiction and how long did it take you to complete this book? >> first of all, it's a pleasure to sit here with you and be in conversation with you and to be here in chicago for this festival and, first, i will answer the second question first. it took me about three years, it was three long years of working from the time the sun was down till the time was still down, and i did not actually set out to write a narrative history of racist ideas that literally cov

. >> when i had a group of undergraduate students in the room i would say to them how many of you wantoffice some day? almost every male hand in the room would go up and very few of the young women. >> i worked for your campaign in 2014 actually. >> a friend used to always tell me women run for office because they want to accomplish something. they want to see a change in the hospital. they want to see something happen in schools. and i do think there's a lot of truth to that. >> men run for office because they want to be in office? >> yes. >> she run, what, four races before she decided to run herself? >> that's right, including the presidential race of gary hart in 1984. this was a fascinating conversation for that reason. she ended up, after she was a staffer, running for state senate when she was 43 years old, mother of three. she became the first female governor of new hampshire, first female senator from new hampshire. even though there are 21 women in the senate on the senate foreign relations committee she is the only woman. very important committee. she has a very unique persp