it's an area that's seen underinvestment. kind of a... little bit different area of market st. than the area more to the east or further west. so the idea of looking at redevelopment in that area is to see if you stimulate or can enhance investment in that part of the city. carolyn: there's been lots and lots of different plans over the years over how to redevelop mid-market, and what to do and stuff, but none of them have ever come into reality. so hopefully this is the plan that will make mid-market, and therefore make all of market street, the street that it should be. chris: there's a disagreement between a group largely backed by the property owners and the developers themselves, who want to minimize the amount of concessions being asked for by the city in exchange for this enhanced local investment, and a group more supported by the residents of the area, who are looking for enhanced benefits given to them by developers which include higher affordable housing in the area of developments along mid-market. charles: they oughta take redevelopment plans and sit on them for ab