we all agree that board members are underpaid. they should receive more than a $500 stipend but theosh this -- issue on this agenda is who is to pay the salaries and what amounts. the civil service commission regulates your salaries, they set your salaries every five years. it seems to me a better proposal would be to have the civil service commission establish pay scales for school board members rather than board of supervisors. so, with that said, i am speak ing against the proposed charter amendment. thank you. mr. armentrout, would you like to make comments on behalf of the school board? thank you very much for being here. >> i'm chris armentraut, director of relations for local government relations start school district. right now, the school district staff has not taken a position on this measure. superintendent garcia wants me to reiterate the separation of this from proposition h with the understanding that when prop h was passed, the intent of the voters was not for this particular strand of support so while that doesn't

some public sector employees are underpaid compared to comparable private sector where we get a drain. to significantly improved, would that be inherently a complete change in schedules. >> when president carter came in, nobody talked to him for a while as to that. it was on a bipartisan basis. there were high-level and well educated positions that we do need. think about security and nuclear-weapons. one of the examples, literally -- in a private sector individual. this committee in particular would be well served, something that is objective and looks at that program by program and make a determination about the fare level where we could save a lot of money. this needs to be done to get spending under control. >> a little off script. i often don't get such a good panel to get into another area. the only way we are going to deal with overspending, includes waste, it also includes taking on entitlement. when i ask the toughest question do you believe that congress can successfully convince the american people that entitlement, social security and medicare, are not in fact an absolute

it is a means for elderly, underpaid and underemployed family members to contribute to household expenses. but i will focus my comments on homeless recyclers. while it is a minuscule proportion, their presence has been a reason stated foreclosing hanc i recommend park. -- by rec and park. on average -- average these people work 10 hours per day and earn less than $1 per hour. it is extremely hard work and is a monument to the spirit of individualism and ruggedness valued by american culture. this proximity to the recycling center has no bearing on the choice of camping locations for homeless recyclers. very few recyclers reside and side of golden gate park. that is not to say that they do not pass through across the city as they traverse. based on this evidence and our own information gathered at regular of reach, closing the center, located across the street from golden gate park, will have no impact on the presence of homeless people in golden gate park or the surrounding area. thank you. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is sam [unintelli

have been a time, a century ago where public employees were mistreated or vulnerable and many, and underpaidhat shall did -- that was ever a problem we have overfixed it. >> reporter: indiana governor mitch daniels a possible presidential contender stripped away collective bargaining six years ago. he takes credit for cutting his state's debt by 40%, and deficit is now under $300 million, just 2% of their 2011 budget. but some states have gone the other way. >> in indiana doesn't have a budget surplus, montana does. >> reporter: democratic governor brian schweitzer of montana worked with unions two and a half years ago. he started the negotiation by cutting his own salary. and in return union workers agreed to go to years without increasing their pay. >> we are a partnership. that's a good way to start the conversation, not with a large stick that says we don't value what you have to say and we don't want to hear your voice. >> reporter: 46 states and the district of columbia are projecting budget shortfalls next year. ten are taking on collective bargaining but the muscle of organized labor

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there may have been a time where public employees were mistreated and vulnerable and underpaid. if that was a problem we have overfixed it. not everywhere but in many places. as you know very well public employees in america most decidedly federal employees but everywhere are better paid than the taxpayers that pay their salaries. much more generous benefit and pensions on top and then near total job security in the last recession. >> teachers, would you really call teachers a privileged elite? >> i was really talking about the government unions of whom their union, of course, is one. it is true that teachers are paid in indiana 22% more than the taxpayers who pay their salary. benefits raised that further, that is all true. i happen to think that is a good idea. we have some of the best paid teachers in america and i think that is absolutely fine. one of the bills the democrats rant uwant us to kill would als to pay the best teachers more. we have a phenomenon at which public sector unions get billions much dollars in dues and hand that back to the circle. >> chris: you have a

we now have studies that show they're not overpaid, they're underpaid.n fact people with a degree in wisconsin get 25% less than the private sector and then he said it was about the pension. now we find out that his pension plan, unlike a lot in the country, is almost fully funded. the assets match the liabilities. and then the employees said or the members out there said, his workers said, we'll accept your cuts. and he said, no. we won't accept your accepting our cuts. and the most outrageous thing that he did, and he talked about this, was he now saying to them, you either have to accept a loss of your rights or i'm going to lay you off. now no person should have to face the right of their loss of their job or the loss of their rights. i know governor barbour would never say to his employees, you have to give up your rights or give up your job. >> a lot of people are confused and have questions about the roles of public-sector unions. you raise a lot of money from public employees. that goes to finance campaigns, to try to get somebody in office that

people on kurds and yet we have -- some of the most underpaid people on respecearth. we should be ashamed of what we pay teachers. we should make sure they get a fair way to eradicate -- to educate our children so we can get america back on track instead of what they are doing to them. host: our last caller spoke about teachers and teachers' union. let's look at it from new york. the headlinesat from new york. we have a comment on twitter. sam writes that individuals have rights, groups don't have rights. let's hear from dan in pennsylvania. do unions matter? calle caller: yes, i used to belong to unions. they seem to have incentive to consolidate work habits. they are concerned about members, their presidents and their stewards and stuff like that. what are they going to do with a holiday tree? host: i don't know anything about that. but go to david in virginia beach. caller: if groups don't have rights, a lot of corporations have rights. the teacher from the carolinas and unions hurt the budget. why does the north carolina governor have issues, they don't have the s

now, in the area of tax bills, if the irs sends a notice that your taxes were underpaid, and there is valid assessment there, you can still ask to have the penalties waived. all you got to do is talk to your accountant. in the arena of hospital bills, there are incredibly error-ridden forms. and this happens. we've seen this over and over again. patients pay an estimated average of $1,300 in overcharges every year. so always, always ask for an itemized statement and always sit down and take the time to check it out. a 13 extra hundred dollars after taxes would be a nice chunk of change for an hour's work, let's say. >> that would certainly make a difference. i think so many of us take that for granted and think, "oh, this is all computerized--" >> it must be right. yeah, computer did it. must be right. but i don't want to overwhelm viewers so early in the program with a million money-saving details when we've got a great way for them to get all these insights neatly arranged and packaged for them. when they show just a little bit of support for this public television station, the very

trainers are grocery underpaid. and as dr.tt just mentioned in the previous segment, these animals are highly understimulated. tillikum chose to pull dawn into the water by her left arm and it got ugly after that. so this is a predictable response. but i think the key point in history is going to start on april 25th when osha takes a close look at the safety issues associated with swimming in the water with killer whales, and i think that's going to determine whether this will actually happen or not. >> you're a key witness in one of those government hearings. what do you plan to say? >> well, i just wrote a paper with dr. jett that describes the increased mortality and morbidity associated with the whales themselves. for example, we now know that killer whales in captivity typically don't live to even ten years once they enter that environment. we also know that they break their teeth on the horizontal steel bars that separate them for training sessions. and if you take a look at their teeth, this might be the reason why they

our military was overworked, underpaid and dramatically underappreciated. i had friends with whom i had served or that i had gone to the naval academy with who had gone into the navy who were saying during this time period, if you make commander, you may as well ge your divorce because you're going to go to sea for four years. the navy had gone from 930 combatant ships during the vietnam war down to 479 precipitously at the same time our country assumed the obligations in the indian ocean and persian gulf, obligations it had not had before. the soviet union, kind of hard to remember right now, was in a state of high activity diplomatically and militarily. it had invaded afghanistan, threatening instability in that part of the world. had a massive naval build-up in the pacific following our withdrawal from vietnam. our diplomatic and military personnel in tehran had been taken hostage by the iranian regime and were being taunted daily on tv. our national self-image was in a crisis state. who were we as a country? do we really have a future? ronald reagan cam

examination of the data from 2006 and 2007, what company did you find to have underreported and underpaid the most? >> i'm not sure. i have to provide that for the record if we have it. i'd be happy to do so. >> i'd be happy to have you do that. i appreciate that. i want to just ask you a question. you made a comment about the amount of medical services provided basically as defensive medicine, and i think you mentioned that 25%, possibly? >> yes, that's correct. >> where did that come from? >> a study between jackson health care and the gallop organization. .. how much more delay or would there be more delay based on kind of the theory of approaching payments that you have given us? >> we are at the point now through leveraging technology to do predictive analytics that you could get closer to real-time for use of those so you could really speed at a. >> okay. thank you chairman and i yield back. >> a i thank the gentleman. the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. kelly. >> thank you mr. chairman. i was really intrigued by what you talked about and you seems to have a really direct response

our military was overworked, underpaid and dramatically underappreciated. i had friends with whom i had served or that i had gone to the naval academy with who had gone into the navy who were saying during this time period, if you make commander, you may as well get your divorce because you're going to go to sea for four years. the navy had gone from 930 combatant ships during the vietnam war down to 479 precipitously at the same time our country assumed the obligations in the indian ocean and persian gulf, obligations it had not had before. the soviet union, kind of hard to remember right now, was in a state ofigh activity diplomatically and militarily. it had invad afghanistan, threatening instability in that part of the world. it had a massive nav build-up in the pacific following our withdrawal from vietnam. our diplomatic and military personnel in tehran had been taken hostage by the iranian regime and were being taunted daily on tv. our natnal self-image was in a crisis state. who were we as a country? do we really have a future? ronald reagan campaig

our military was overworked, underpaid and dramatically underappreciated. i had friends with whom i had served or that i had gone to the naval academy with who had gone into the navy who were saying during this time period, if you make commander, you may as well get your divorce because you're going to go to sea for four years. the navy had gone from 930 combatant ships during the vietnam war down to 479 precipitously at the same time our country assumed the obligations in the indian ocean and persian gulf, obligations it had not had before. the soviet union, kind of hard to remember right now, was in a state of high activity diplomatically and militarily. it had invaded afghanistan, threatening instability in that part of the world. it had a massive naval build-up in the pacific following our withdrawal from vietnam. our diplomatic and military personnel in tehran had been taken hostage by the iranian regime and were being taunted daily on tv. our national self-image was in a crisis state. who were we as a country? do we really have a future? ronald reagan

. >> in your examination of the data from 2007, which company underpaid or underreported the most? >> i am not sure. i will provide that for the record. >> if you will provide a list of the companies that have underreported, i would appreciate that. i want to ask you a question. he made a comment about the amount of medical services provided for defensive medicine. you mentioned the number 25%. >> yes, that is correct. >> where did that number come from? >> it came from a study from jackson health care. >> there are studies that showed that number is considerably lower than that. we can all agree that there are a lot of services that are provided that are unjustified. there are numbers that are considerably lower than that, aren't there? >> yes. the interesting thing about that study is that it was done in private. it was anonymous so that the physicians felt compelled to answer under anonymity. we like to think that number is the most accurate number. >> i have had dr. stand up in a roomful of people -- doctors stand up in a room full of people and admit they practice defensive me

the culprits are rising health care costs, underpaid pension plans. some of these plans look bad right now because of the collapse in the value of pension assets. even an appreciation in value leaves several state plans underfunded. the municipal bond market has now responded to legitimate concerns about the long term structural imbalances in the states. i believe we would be correct to distinguish the bad app the from the other 40 some states that are well managed and only have temporary deficits. that's why a one size fits all approach for states could do more harm than good. state and local governments across the country need to continue building roads and bridges, and we deponent want to make -- don't want to make the finances more expensive than it is. our national interest at stake, the almosts must be beyond the state governments to reform themselves and reform sooner than later. a default on payments would make it expensive for all states to borrow. they bear the brunt of the costs through higher taxes or public services or charity. i don't wa