polls, they should be ashamed of these polls they put out today is because of the simple fact they underpolled voters of color by up to five points. they did something that hadn't been done in two decades. >> can you compare this to last time? it's completely different with donald trump and bernie sanders in the race. this is bernie sanders tonight and we'll discuss. >> it is not only national polls where we defeat trump by bigger numbers than secretary clinton, it is state poll after state poll after state poll. just in the last day. just in the last day, two national polls have us beating trump by bigger margins than secretary clinton. four statewide polls. in pennsylvania, in pennsylvania, ohio, florida, and new hampshire, in every one of those polls, we beat trump or do better against trump than does secretary clinton. >> you can't argue with the facts. he's right. >> and as a sanders man, i do still want to say part of the reason that hillary doesn't do better in the polls is she's been attacked for 25 years or 30 years and bernie sanders has not. you've got to put that out. at the same t