when i landed and received information to say we were not undersegregated, when i went to the office i was told yes, in fact, we were undersegregated and that is when the team looked to see how that could be the case. >> miss serwinski, did you inform anyone else of that fact? >> once we determined that the funds had in fact not been an accounting error but an actual deficit, we contacted the cme who was on the premises and contacting either my colleagues in new york at that point. >> that was saturday? >> no. that was probably very early in the hours of monday, october 31st or the very late sunday, october 30th. >> you would have waited two days to let anybody at cme know about the deficiencies? >> we did not believe -- i did not believe it was a deficiency at that point. we believe as i mentioned it was inconceivable to meet that the firm could be undersegregated by that substantial amount. >> but it was in fact deficient by that substantial amount. >> was brought to my attention later on in the very early hours of october 31st that in fact it was in deficiency. >> under segregatio