terms of working with police, the police department itself as we heard is pretty dramatically understaffedologist and wree trying to rectify that. i know the police have many balls they are juggling, but the partnership between reck and park and the police in termotches getting police into the had parks to help and make sure things are going okay. >> we actually really have a very good relationship with the san francisco police department. they have their own resource challenges so is a bit of a [inaudible] game so every police officer in a park-every police officer in deloris park isn't on vulenchia street. those are the trade offs. there are a lot the park rangers do that police auftsers don't do. the police officers do park code enforce. and basic use conflicts and frankly they open things and close things and make sure that permit td and sometimes non permitted events are safe. there are a set of skills there isn't much overlap and there are a lot of things sfpd does that we are not permitted to do. we work in tandem. the best example of that are in golden gate park we have park and richmond