it's really why we need this person to help us understand what data is out there and how do we utilize that in conjunction with the other information that we already have. you can send a tweet. so, we're finalizing the job announcement now. if you're interested, or you know someone who is interested, you can send a tweet to sfmoci and we'll be posting the job announcement there. so, thank you very much. it's my pleasure to introduce the general manager of our rec and park department who has done some great partnerships around open data, phil ginsberg. (applause) >> can you all hear me? i'll talk into the mic. i'm the general manager of your recreation and park department and i really couldn't be happier. the recreation and park department is a city agency that historically has suffered from maybe the worst website and some of the worst technology in government. and over the last few years we have worked really hard to improve that park user's experience through the use of technology. and i want to start out before we talk a little about the app saying a if you thank yous. i really want

when it goes the government we don't have a cultural understanding of what data the government should have. and the debate should not be about snowden. he'll be forgotten in five years. the debate is what is personal privacy in a digital world? >> rose: do you have an answer to that? >> i think answer is twofold: fergs we have to talk about what should the government collect. what should they keep in a massive data pool? second-- and the more significant question-- is when can they dip in that pool to look? that's really the important question. how can you analyze all this data they've acquired. >> rose: the president seems to want that debate and other people talk about wanting to have that debate but the focus is and the curiosity is right now on snowden and what he has told the russians and the chinese and what happened to him and why, as norah suggested, the united states is so intent and is so vociferous in terms of their efforts both vocally and otherwise to get him back. >> well, i think we've transitioned from talking about a whistle-blower about someone who leaks to potential

jonathan says verizon has done nothing but as far as i understand, it's meta data. >> what did you have in your ceel yar this morning. this is so not ui. this is snooping. this is the kind of stuff people are supposed to hated. if you want to gather -- i sign the do the ted line, we got this fiber thing going from new jersey and virginia. we want you to know about that. nobody told us about it. >> eric: let me read this to you. i carry this in my pocket. it's not a prop. u.s. constitution, fourth amendment, 1791, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, in their houses, in papers and effect against unreasonable searches and seizures and mention probable cause. there is no probable cause to data mine a million people. >> if there is a real threat and they are responding to it and they have to, i've heard this compared, if you are looking for need until haystack you have to get the haystack. when it comes to giving up a little bit of our security or a little bit of our freedom for security. that is where the american people are. >> this is nothing new. in 1979 the supreme co

data. then the question is, what are the rules to access that data? and our understanding is that the government goes to the fisa court and says, the foreign intelligence surveillance act court, and says these are the rules we're going to follow when we want to go into the tank. and the fisa court signs off on those rules, that protocol, if you will. let's say the police in london raid a terror cell and find cells that have u.s. numbers on it. it passes those numbers to the united states. then the u.s. can go into the task and say, all right, let's see what numbers were called, you know, do we find that number in there? what numbers was it calling? to try to look at whether there was accomplices of terrorists in the united states. so in other words, our understanding is the government can't simply dive into this data willy-nilly or can't plug it into a huge computer to say, you know, massage this data and see what you come up with. >> right. >> that's our understanding of it. but, of course, the tafact the government is collecting this data at all to many civil libertarian

opportunity to respond to it but also more importantly provided the committee with the data so we can clearly understand you know what this actually means and is it accurate. >> thank you so much. and thank you supervisor and thank you. i know you've been in the arts community for a number of years and the cultural center the african-american complex has been the home of a number of organizations we fund. i would like you love to brief you on what we do and how we do it. we fund supervisors on a progressive basis with organizations that have smaller budgets receiving a larger percent of the funds. we're not uncomfortable of being up to 20 percent but the larger organizations is one percent of their budget. we also are tied if you know historically to the hotel tax so organization must be publicly available and tsz to the city. we've been in a situation we've dropped between 25 and thirty percent over the last 4 to 5 years because of the recession. we tried to make those cuts in overhead and administration. we've made the larger duts cuts to the larger recipients. we also work close with the cultural grant probably 50

understand whats a minute...how long calls are....we understand what a message is, but gigabytes is this whole other realm. you don't really understand how much gigabytes youre using on pandora, or data youre using on email. so what we are seeing is people are overbuying their gigabytes." that was todd dunphy of save love give dot com, a company that analyzes cell phone bills. he notes many americans tend to think they need 6 gigabytes of data, when they really only need one or two. another day, another problem with a boeing dreamliner. this time, one of the new jets was diverted to seattle after taking off from denver on its way to tokyo. united arilines says the 787 suffered an oil filter issue. boeing's fleet of dreamliners had to be grounded in january because of concerns about lithium ion batteries overheating. the issue on this latest flight apparently had nothing to do with batteries. a new documentary-- claims to have "solid proof" there was more to the 1996 crash of twa flight 800 than what was first reported. the jet carrying 230 passengers crashed in the waters off new york. the ntsb ruled the explosion was caused by an electrical short circuit likely connected to a fuel g

. >> how much is about the technology versus having people who understand what the data means? because, you know, you can get this flood of data but someone has to sort through it. it's not clear to me that the system unto itself could figure that out. >> that's a terrific question. i think the big data fund is bridging that gap. we're calling it the data science gap. how do you get the last mile? how do you get from data to user? there's a whole new class of software i think that will be called data driven software applications. it will -- >> is there an apple or microsoft in there somewhere? >> i think so. i mean, this is -- this is very similar to the last internet boom. so there's main frame, client server, and now there's another market. >> thank you for coming in this morning. >> thank for having me. >> appreciate it. >>> if you want more -- if you want to know more about big data, go to dataeconomy.cnbc.com. >> you never know who might show up on "squawk." wells fargo ceo john stumpf is here. >> here he is. >> we should have hit the ball a lot further. >> you are a big m

>> i think they are trying to clarify to help people better understand what the real issue is. the data're talking about is like taking a hundred million records a day from the phone company and putting them in a warehouse. if some issue comes up, go to the particular file, pull it off the shelf, and take a look at someone, some particular number to do an investigation. so, you know, no one is in a position to be monitoring the volume that we're talking about. if you add the other phone companies under the assumption they're probably also providing similar data you could be looking at close to a billion records a day being transmitted to nsa, of storage by nsa for a future look. there are not enough analysts in the world much less the u.s. government to analyze a billion records a day. that are getting put into storage. when an issue comes up to be able to go back to it that is what the government is asking for. >> all right. in 2012 it says less than 300 unique identifiers met the standard and were queried. i mean, it doesn't seem to be getting a lot of information, garnering a lot of

people don't seem to understand what's happening and where this data's going. >> okay.tion the idea of our work histories, our medical records, all that, you know, up in the cloud. could these programs like these, could we be seeing them in more schools? >> absolutely. and schools. we could be seeing them when it comes to hospital records and this kind of thing. the buzzword here and what we keep hearing in silicon it's going to be stored in the cloud. the question is, when is washington going to get involved, too, and understand the type of technology that's being built and how to really legislate it? don? >> all right. thank you very much. we appreciate that. lori siegel. we switched places, by the way. she's in atlanta. i'm in new york. >> we did. >> all right. >>> he's a comedian best known for the show "the office" and he's gearing up for another career. we'll hear from hilarious ed helms, next. le about how they could save money on car insurance with geico... yeah, a little bit more of the lime green love yeah... or letting them know they can reach geico 24/7 usin

understand what is there. if you're looking at improving an instrument or additional an r additional questions, that gives you data points to start to lynn on that information. it is there. i've not seen me data, but my view of the survey would indicate that those are possibilities to be explored. and then with the survey itself, we can talk about the global changes, again, going back to the design features of the scope, how they are screamed, -- screen, the mode, focusing on a specific sexual assault survey worse is a -- versus an omnibus workplaces from a nation survey. i would be happy to talk about more of those kinds of details if you're that kind of work. i do not want to take up too much time. >> thank you, professor. any questions or comments? >> i have got a question. , itaining to the police data am assuming municipal police, state police, county police, and then campus police. i was thinking of the demographics that we are working with here. demographic and givinen i lot of that demographc resides on, and -- on college campuses. jurisdiction, when it is reported to give his police, they sometimes retain

what you saw in terms of data gathering and what the n.s.a. and other agencies are dealing. with you see private corporations do an enormous amount of data gathering in order to understand their customers better but there is a very big difference and a big difference is that these private corporations don't have the backing of law and the backing of force behind them so even if a bank gets annoyed with me and trolls through my bad data at most some kind of low level employee in therapy i make my life inconvenience for a while and then i could appeal to the law to stop that who i peel to if the one who is hounding me is the government if you're a journalist and you're being hounded by the government who do you appeal to then so that's the real concern here there's a very big difference between corporations collecting our data and government backed with the force of law and threats of violence collecting this data and using it against its own citizens these types of journal warrants are explicitly prohibited in the constitution and i don't care how many judges will senators say this is ok you can't authorize general warrants it's right there in the fourth amendment. and that wa

what you saw in terms of data gathering and what the n.s.a. and other agencies are dealing. well you see private corporations do an enormous amount of data gathering in order to understand their customers better but there's a very big difference and the big difference is that these private corporations don't have the backing of law and the backing of force behind them so even if a bank gets annoyed with me and trolls through my bed of data at most some kind of low level employee in there could make my life inconvenience for a while and then i could appeal to the law to stop that who i peel to if the one who is hounding me is the government if you're a journalist and you're being hounded by the government who do you appeal to then so that's the real concern here there's a very big difference between corporations collecting our data and government backed with the force of law and threats of violence collecting this data and using it against its own citizens these types of journal warrants are explicitly prohibited in the constitution and i don't care how many judges will senators say this is ok you can't authorize general warrants it's right there in the fourth amendment and th

host: we have a tweet tweet, how are the people to understand the true amount of what the government spends? we're is there accessible and understandable data? >> there is a lot of data i don't think there is a shortage but the problem is always to analyze what is there. something we both found disturbing there is one whole story out there that security is in immediate trouble and the bookkeeping is not proper and it is bogus. social security will it have to be changed and the retirement age raised? possibly but the fund is not in danger medicare is a different animal but they are lumped together as if they're the same problem and they are not. all you have to do is look at the budget in brief and you can siva issues. you don't have to go tussaud library you can do this at your computer for free 24/7. >> host: what is one site that you recommend? >> i would not settle on a single site. tipples intimation from multiple sources. >> the gao is one the comptroller of the currency currency, those numbers are there the u.s. budget is on line to numerous sites from the white house i suppose if you are a conspiracy theorist you think they manipulat

data. ask anyone on the street if they understand what that is. people are saying i'm on the internet all the time, on my cell phone, i have to have the expectation that someone is listening. the question is what is going to happen with this information? nobody has really answered that question. >> thanks to mr. snowden, i think there is going to be more transparency about the existence of these programs. nobody is sitting there and listening to everyone's phone conversations. >> i don't think that's clear. >> that's a burden of responsibility on the government to explain more. the president is feeling the heat. on friday he metaphor the first time with his -- i think it's his privacy and civil liberties accountability board that was created in 2004. never functioned. reconstituted in 2007. never met. i think now we're having the debate that we should have had ten years ago. we have the luxury of having it now because we feel pretty damn safe compared to after 9/11. >> one of the reasons that president obama has plunged in the poles, i think his d

data was the same from that point to now? >> what mr. sanchez says that my interpretation of the points to calculate the height is correct. >> i understand that. i'm talking about the data of elevation and the original drawings say was on the slab and on the roof versus the data that you now have on the current top of slab on the ground floor, are they the same data? >> yes. >> okay. thank you. >> mr. barclay? i think this has already been made clear but to clarify for the record. i want to thank scott san chez in the planning department for agreeing to reevaluate. that's all i have. thank you. >> first i would like to clarify the address. originally this was 132nd avenue, it became el camino del mar not by voice. the board of supervisors decided that every single property with frontage on el camino del mar shall use el camino del mar as the address. subsequent ly the address changed. it's not our choice. i think when it comes to the height limit, they are a lot of data in the evaluation in the record of the planning department sections, drawings that exist to support the department's decision that it's an accurate building that is withi

data and what the data was is also tracked. so for him to say now they will develop that, i don't understand that. i don't know what's been going on over there. because the way every system i tried to work work there was an extensive audit trail to track what was taken. >> it feeds the worst fears of people who say these programs developed after a more risk tragedy here in the united states with the best of intentions to protect the united states from another attack. but the worst fear, once the government starts collecting the information, it gets bigger and bigger, you contract it out, they're not in store if you will and that opens up to abuses. >> that's true. and i would question answering questions in a public situation. if you can't answer the question, don't make up another story. i mean, we saw the attorney general in a hearing recently asked a question and he said right back to the senator this is not the place for me to answer that. and i'm not going to answer it. and most of these hearings, when they have these briefings with the intelligence committee, they're secret briefings. so when

what is done that people don't really understand is being done? >> what's most unfortunate is that both stories, p.r.i.s.m. and the meta datacame out at the same time, and those stories have been interwoven in a bunch of public discourse about it. the meta data story does touch upon americans in a massive way with phone records but not the content. the p.r.i.s.m. story is about foreigners, and it is about content. and those things have become kluged together much to the harm of the rational national debate. >> i'm starting the conversation about the politics of all of this. congressman, you voted against the patriot act back in 2001, and we'll talk more about that. but president obama as somebody who's presided over the expansion of these programs, had a much different outlook back in 2007 when he was running against, effectively, president bush. here's what he said back in august of 2007. >> this administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. i will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terroris

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understanding what is the true issue, and i think another way of aggregating the data by saying, these are the incidents where alcohol was involved. this is the type of behavior, touching, attempted cometed sexual intercourse, and then reporting how is that reporting, is the victim reporting because they're like, i was drink or he was drinking or was it really a -- so it would be interesting to see. that goes to your point of pinpointing policy or pinpoints where to direct efforts. if people are not report because of the alcohol issue, that's a complete live different issue than i'm reporting reporting anr alcohol is involved or not. there's different ways of framing that point. but these are all knowable things based on the information we have. >> thank you. >> i want to go back to the issue of the rape shield law and your concern about how it's being utilized in the military. could you elaborate on that a little bit snore -- a little bit more? particular through military court of appeals. >> when if was doing my research, one of the case -- i don't have it in my folder but in my bag

able to look at things like trends in understand what colors are coming into fashion, things a contractor their data analytics. customers a putting pictures of themselves. they can really get into the living room coming into people's lives and understand their products. dennis: 50,000 customer bases quite a focus group. they set that up or did you set it up for them? >> two dozen nine, i believe, we started recruiting the canid the and you can set that up through all of the multiple test points, so everything from retail to the database to social media as a means to record those people and they're having dialogue in a variety of different ways, whether it's advertising, new products, new concepts they're looking in introducing to the market. dennis: panera public did these things differently as a result of the input that they get from you guys. >> only so much that we are allowed to share, but i will say that they have been able to get leading indicators on trends in be able to push through and fast-track decision making because of those indicators. dennis: give us another one, that you did wonderfu

. >> if i may quickly, senator, it's my understanding you have the meta-data, the records of what appears on a phone bill and if you want to go to the content, then you have to get a court order, the same thing you would do in a criminal case. you would have to get a court order that would permit you to collect the content of the call. you can ask him if that's right or wrong. >> that's correct. >> i assumed that but i'm not talking about content at this point. i'm not asking if you can read somebody's emails. i'm assuming at some point there will be a legal standard by which you could do that. being a lawyer, i know that. what i'm only getting to is you've identified for us that you can get phone contacts. i'm asking, can you get google contacts? can you get email contacts? i'm not talking about reading the email or seeing what they're saying back and forth. i'm not at that point. but what i worry about is how far do you believe this authority extends? can you get google contacts? can you get email contacts? again i'm not asking about reading the email. >> so i think there's a couple thi

>> right, from what i understand, what we're reading in the press is telephone calls. however, what i would say is by coordinate nalgt mega data from phone calls, you can also toll where people are going. how many times they call someone. there are a lot of things you can determine about a person's life. i would also say that under today's understanding from the supreme court, your visa record is not private and does not require a warrant there is a mistake. i think your third party record should get the protection of the fourth amendment. >> bill: let's see how that legally evolves i want to know i think do you and i think every single american or anybody in the world watching me now, i want to know if what this whistle blower says is true that the national security security agency is taking emails. words on paper and storing them. are you going to be able to find out? >> that's the question. the only way we will know is if president obama and his administration choose to be the transparent administration they promised they were going to be. if they chose to protect privacy, if though chose is it to release even some of these