presentations slides have also a reflection of the effort to boil down the issues so people can understand and so in the process of trying to hone the message further we're recognizing now we're still short of what we would like to achieve in terms of reaching out to other communities. >> i want to thank you and brea for a wonderful presentation. >> but i want to focus on the outreach how it so you would we are still outreaching to the same people traditionally involved in the port issues i did not even see a meeting with the fisherman's wharf intention may be we can collaborate with the board of supervisors or the cac established throughout the city it is really, really important we're able to go far and wide it's a big issue and the port belongs to everyone. >> so we agree and i think we owe i a public outreach plan we have to xhurment consult would the supervisors we've thought about the idea of holding you know are working with the supervisor to identify neighborhood organizations in their district we could make 24 presentation and get feedback designing e diane has empowering the sugg

we understand how to persevere and we understand the perseverance and assurance that we know the founding fathers had. this young lady that i met from virginia. can you imagine the euphoria of the ragtag bunch called the revolutionary army and the british of yorktown surrender? the assurance that they had. confidence and encourage, boldness and perseverance, assurance. and as you weave your which you will be one day, being a champion for christ and country confidence which comes in one simple verse which is my favorite out of the bible. christians for, chapter 13. i can do all things in christ who strengthens me. and when paul wrote that understand that he was soon to be executed. so what manner of person chained him in prison, could write that he can do all things through christ who strengthens him. and that is what you have with the confidence for you to go out because paul didn't say that i can do a few things. and he says we can do all things. and he says we can do all things and restore our economy and make it work. once a look at america because we can do all things but that is what

we've done in a great graphic it took a lot of work to instill is into something it's visually understandable. >> so i think our mission over the next several months to figure out how to expand the public involvement and outreach and share what we have going on here and what commissioner ho also started this i know all of us who sit on there isn't that much left we have done so much to work on the waterfront in bits and pieces i'm excited to figure out how to afford that being said there is the seawall rise and the impact of that on everything we do and how he finance it and there's another commenter pit it, it's not just a port ability responsibility this is the waterfront is for all of us and conversely we all have to figure out how we're going to address the seawall rise as it impacts the waterfront they made the analogy of city hall it's a treasurer for the whole he city i know one of our tavengz to figure out how we come up with partnerships and other relationships both local and regional and state and federal how we'll address accident impacts of seawall rise i talked to someone in an a

if so a little bit later in coming people understand the seismic risks so those are 3 big issues that have a fundamental effect what you want to see happen in a waterfront in the neighborhood or the other platform that has resonated with the audience. >> surface messages totally agree with you do they walk away thinking the port has been merged well against the strategic issues and what's the overall image of the waterfront has it improved as a result of hearing that's what we need to understand. >> yes. we do we've gotten a lot of positive comments and effectively about the changing face that the san francisco waterfront and people have whether to exposure the ferry this or the open spaces we have comments about people have now choose to spend their time along the waterfront we have many voices and opinions not health department a uniform position. >> and couple of things that from the comments i wanted to 345k as well first, i was a little bit surprised by most of comments seemed to recognize this is a review of the waterfront land use plan but some think that is the plan so i wante

yes, i think we need to understand, i think the cuban leadership understands and knows this. development ow it, is like lecktressity, just because you have electricity at the outlet, unless you have the right connection you're not doing to get any benefit from it. the fact that the world opensup to cuba economically, i mean the rest of the world has been open to cuba economically except the u.s. so the fact that it does open to cuba means absolutely nothing unless cuba implements the right kind of reform they need in rder to meet that challenge. so at some point the cuban government has to stop fooling around the edges here and come back and make significant reforms. i have also said and i said it during my last trip to cuba that it is ok for the cuban government to decide there are sectors of the economy that they want to keep in a state control. what they need to do rather than reform every sector of the economy a little bit is to take those sectors of the economy that they want to completely turn over to the private sector and open them up. that's the only thing that will

i totally understand that. i have actually received two drafts before i got the final report and there's not a significant difference that i could tell. i know that folks from the advocate community have provided feedback on their suggestions that we have been able to incorporate, so i guess you know, yes, i respect the fact that you need time, but i think our patience is run out, mostly because the rates haven't been set. we have done this report. we are just providing information in order to make it easier for the puc when in fact the puc if they have this information they should be moving forward with a plan for clean power directly themselves, so i think i'm just -- you know, my patience is left the building a little bit, and i am sorry to express frustration here today, but we as members of this body doing everything we can to try and make it easier, and it's just not happening, and that is a very frustrating thing to see, and it's clear from my perspective because puc hadn't set rates that the puc doesn't

i think we have some understanding in iraq with zero understanding in syria. we've talked about the fact that since world war ii we've had so many conflicts where we and administrations go forward with activities that end up having an outcome that is far from where we began. and yet in this case -- and i know the chairman has tried to have testimony, has tried to have people come in here. i know we could subpoena and maybe that's what we need to do this next year to make sure that we actually have people come in and explain to us where we're going. but i don't think there's a person on this committee that can lay out with any degree of specificity how we plan to go about doing this thing of degrading and defeating. we have no idea. and so in many ways, as senator mccain has mentioned, it's almost -- it almost reeks of the incrementalism if you will that began with vietnam years ago. and it seems to me that one of our great responsibilities here is to, when an administration needs an authorization to go forward, is for us to tease that out, to understand, to ge

and then if we can understand not, then, and only then, can we foundation for an understanding of liberty in our age and our generation. if we get the anthropology wrong , anything we construct on top of it, no matter how elaborate, no matter how seemingly beautiful, will also be faulty. and if you ask me to identify one thing that is at the root of all of the confusion not only in our politics but in our culture today, it is this question. st is the question the psalmist put forward in psalm eight, what mindful oft thou art him and the son of man that thou visit him? if we are the sum total of our physical parts than we are -- then we are a speck of dust floating on specks of dust in a cold, cruel universe. but if we are something more than merely our physical -- physicality. and we are physical. respect institute of politics and culture. but there is something more to us because we were built for something more. we contained within us a turn in the. i like the way cs lewis put it -- eternity. i like the way cs lewis put it. you have never met a mere mortal. everyone with whom you have e

was what i didn't understand. i thought we had to provide external stairs either way, but you are saying with the 25", they are internal stairs inside the vehicle, similar to what we see in caltrain vehicle now's? now. >> right >> i assumed external stairs with the 25". >> you were correct. >> it is an internal staircase. >> yes. >> that makes sense. >> that is my update. i would be happy to answer any questions. >> thank you very much. seeing none -- we appreciate your time. supervisor kim is that the end of the presentations? >> yes. >> thank you. i want to thank you everyone for coming out. these are really hard issue as we try to move towards the transportation future of the bay area, but it's good that we're having these conversations. we'll now move to public comment. i have two public comment cards. bruce and then jim lazarus. if there is anybody else, there are blue cards in the front or you can just speak after we call all of the names. >> good afternoon, chair wiener, supervisors kim and cohen. my name i

first of all, i want to understand is the 25" still on the table?s it still possible that caltrain will go ahead with 25" even though high-speed rail is going to have a distinct different level? >> right now, the first process that we went through during the month of november was to find out if there are any fatal flows and there are no fatal flaws going from 25". we're still looking as we go through that process, and listening to the car builders about the 25" height. there will be a policy decision that the jpb will be doing based on recommendations from that study. >> i understand that jpb will be making those recommendations and is staff recommending 25"? >> what staff was committed to and this was jumping ahead to our last slide, we're going do a trade-off analysis, because what does it mean to have a car that looks like this? or the flexibility that you get with a platform that looks differently? we're committed to come back to all of our funding partners and meeting with that mou group every single month, back to our board and back to any bod

and then if we can understand that, then and only then can we for a secure foundation an understanding of liberty in our day, in our generation, in our day. if we get the anthropology wrong, anything we conduct on top of it, no matter how elaborate or seemingly beautiful will also be faulty. and if you ask me to identify one thing at the root of all the confusion not only in our politics but culture today, it is this question, it's the question that the psalmist put together, psalm 8, what is man that thou art mindful and the son of man that thou visittest him? if we are the sum total of our physical parts, then we are a of k of dust upon a speck dust floating in a calm and cruel university. but if we are something more than merely or physicality, we certainly are physical and why we have to respect utilitarian dimensions of liberty and why we have to respect the institutions of politics and culture but there's something more to us because we were built for something more. we contain within us eternity. i like the way c.s. lewis put it in such a memorable fashion and articulates this j

still outstanding and in other words, they don't have any kind of a commitment for that yet and we understand that it is the early days in the project and it is a couple of years away and even at that, we think that there is something that they are watching and additionally we have an informational item that included an up date on the cal train electricification and the program that they will use and the new vehicles that the cal train is looking to buy and there are three stations where the high speed rail and cal train will share platform and we are sort of and the san francisco and if they have, different requirements or the platform, heights, then that will be an operational front of the one extent or another, so we encourage you, to monitor the situation, and insure that the two agencies and the high speed rail and the joint powers board work together as closely as possible to avoid any difficulties down the road. >> okay. >> thank you so much, mr. larkin. and i see no questions, and let's open this up for public comment, is there anyone from the public that would like to speak. >> seein

>> yes. >> and i just want to understand, sorry, just the page 2. what are the stations and the (inaudible) stations? >> repairing stations are for the signal system, to remain the signals. >> what does that mean, i am sorry. >> but you have, the (inaudible) a series of stations that have transmitted and the (inaudible). >> yeah. >> so, that is what they are. >> that is what a (inaudible) is? >> yes, what is a switching station then? >> it is to operate the switches. >> the switches that are for the tracks. >> okay. >> and so, >> so we have a cal train that can help that. >> and it is from cal train. >> yeah. >> cal train --. >> so paralleling stations. >> it is complete because i applied for those. >> the paralleling station and switching stations are part of the electric part of, and they are the way side facilitis that help to regulate the energy throughout the corridor. >> okay. >> and so it is halfway facilities as well and so for those particular ones that is for the project. >> for the yellow dot in san francisco is that the fourth and king s

we understand the clock. we certainly won't resolve anything and get there this afternoon in the next few hours. but i do think this discussion is important. we all agree this discussion has to conclude this is not one party's fight against dash but rather it reflects our united decision to defeat dash. the world needs to understand it from the united states congress above all. our coalition partners need to know that from all of you. the men and women of the armed forces deserve to know it from all of you. that's why this matters. toward that end we ask you to work closely with us on a bipartisan basis to develop language that provides a clear signal of support for our ongoing military operations against dash. our position on the text is really pretty straightforward. the aumf should give the president the clear mandate and flexibility to successfully prosecute the armed conflict against dash and affiliated forces. it should be limited to the threat posed by that group and by forces associated with it. i wil

they operate as small businesses. >> i understand that. >> if you understand that, you should understand they are attacking thousands of small business zs around the country. they are not attacking g.e. or jpmorgan. >> not google. >> he's equating mcdonald's franchises to google. >> charlie is talking about thousands of jobs, employees orem ployers, rather. we are talking millions of jobs. we are going to be academic about this thing. it's proven, trying to force it down people's throats. if you force them to pay $15 an hour they are going to have 17 employees. it backfires miserably. >> everything they do is not logical. they go after mcdonald's and walmart. in a case like mcdonald's, if you force $15 down, here is what's going to happen. managers are going to look at the skills and say you don't get the skills of $15, you don't have them and we are not hiring you. people who get a job for $10 or $11 will not get 15. if you have ten stores with 100 employees, you are going to end up with 90 because you don't want to absorb the costs mandated on you by the government. >> so backwards the

the reasons are understandable. right now the oil and gas industry has, for the most part, fallen under the political no, ma'amennonomenclature's's management and the expenditures are growing the same way or faster. nevertheless, we still do have reserves. i think for some period of time there should be enough of them. afterwards, if prices don't jump up to $200 a barrel, i think that the authorities are going to have a harder time explaining themselves to the people why it is that the people shouldn't partake in running the government despite the fact that the authorities themselves seem incapable of providing them with constant growth in their standard of living. the social contract between the people and the authorities was just that, you ensure constant growth in our standard of living and we don't meddle in running the country. >> charlie: you take care of politics and we have a good life. >> yes, exactly so. strategically, if we talk about the strategic future we understand that all authoritarian regimes, espe

that exists in other ordinances just terms of policy prospective on having that out to understand - and so we wanted to legislation to be as board and covered as possible taking that waiver out for collective bargaining agreement was important and covering hass as many as possible and local 2 brought up the small number of employees in the hotel who are employees of the hotel not for example, soft story building that is in the hilton that's one of the important ones that as people testify i'll be working closely with the coalitions and the city attorney to craft something that is clear legislation. >> i think that makes sense what you were talking about i had a few other questions and appreciate our indulge of my ramming up literally open the topic here in the legislation and i know supervisor avalos has other questions. >> i will make two motions first is to remove the addressing the 2 hundred employee or they recalled for worker retention provisions in the mar, carmen chu or supervisor campos legislation that's one motion. >> sorry clarify added in. >> that was added in on wednesd

the same thing in understanding cultures. we have to understand, i shared earlier where it was a church van pulled over by police and the church van was full of holiness people. so when they started reacting and playing and doing things, the officer was uncomfortable with their response. and he called in more units because he didn't understand folks laying hands on each other. so these are -- you know, we need to understand, you know, he come from a background where that is unusual. so we have to train our officers where, you notice, if i walk on the scene i may tell a group of young men, y'all got to go home and they respond accordingly, well, you've got to get -- you know, whereas somebody else may come, get off the corner. you create an environment that's going to be some kind of negative reaction and that's where a the lo of our training needs to be surrounded around that sensitivity on how to deal with different communities. >> thank you, chief. dr. clinger, we have questions for you. one thing, i'm sorry, i didn't see y

i'm asking do you understand it? >> again, i'm not the authoritative -- >> i'm not asking -- >> do i understand what the main elements are, yes? i think i do. >> okay. i'm not going to chase that last i think i do, but because this is an important part to me. i'm not trying to pin you down, but punting the question like the gentleman from pennsylvania said i think is a direct issue of what we're dealing with here because there's a lot of folks just trying to understand our policy in syria and someone like my friend who has served in iraq and served in this region during wartime, this is very much of a concern. if we don't understand the policy and you're trying to carry out a bigger part of that policy, to say that you do at least attempt to understand it is encouraging. my question is if you understand it, what is your understanding of that policy as short as you can -- what is your understanding of the administration's policy? >> the president has spoken about our policy. the secretary of state has spoken about our

a society that understands itself because its people understand themselves, that our end is more than the physical comfort or the passions indulged in, that we have an end beyond this world, and that's why freedom is a sacred thing, even if it's not the whole answer. i opened with a quote that and from lord acton, and i would like to close with another quotation. liberty is the delicate fruit of a mature civilization. out on the side of the house that i lived in, in a religion community a while back, quite a while back now, when we moved in, we were doing some repairs. there was a big tree. it was taller than the house itself. i noticed, on the side of the house, there was this big tree that went up in the air. it was taller than the house itself. now, i'm from brooklyn, new york. >> yahy. [applause] >> see? see? what do we know from trees right? no, no, no. there was a tree in brooklyn once. [laughter] i think somebody got it. [laughter] so there was this tree up there. and i'm looking up, and part of it is in full bloom, and part of it is dead. dead leaves on it. so i called the tre

but you understand there is a different relationship between the christian life will understand whatit means to persevere. there was a young lady that i met from yorktown virginia. care new imagine called the revolutionary army when your town surrendered? and they got to the incredible day. courage boldness and perseverance. but what is the most important thing? from being a champion is confidence. i can do all things through christ. but what manner of person chained in a prison that he could do all things through christ jesus? he is a champion and that is what you have. because paul did not say i can do a few things. or a couple of things. he said i can do all things. and dash as you go out to be the champions they can do all things. that is the means to reduce deficit spending. because it could do all things. and america 238 years it has done all things. and it has not done a great saying this ended three different combat zones. it and like any other place i was born in the inner city of atlanta and georgia. look at what i could do or achieve. because of america you can do all thin

you mentioned some of the readers may have issues understanding the data. what readers are we discussing? you had mention the commission but is that the only readers are you discussing or others we should be considering? >> commissioner, barbara hale assistant manager for power. i am anticipating when we have the joint meetings and presentations and we talk about this and see news articles or trade press on this that these numbers are going to be used and i want to make sure that we get clarity from the whole community, and understanding of what we're really talking about. i think it would be unfortunate for three years down the road for people to be questioning us as to why we didn't get 9,000 jobs in san francisco. well, the report never anticipated 9,000 jobs in san francisco. so it's that clarity i am looking for, and i want to thank your general counsel for putting the context on this, but we're really just talking about how to get the message right because it's going to be used and that's good. we want to make sure folks understand what it is that we'

>> to my understanding. but, again, i am only the nominee. >> let me turn to another piece of legislation. you know, at the end of the day, sen. mccaskill senator mccaskill is absolutely right about the resource challenges that this agency faces. but even an agency fully and abundantly resourced will be an effective if it lacks teeth, if the penalties are ineffective. right now the $35 million on penalties for nondisclosure, inadequate disclosure is absolutely a mockery of justice, wouldn't justice, wouldn't you agree? >> i appreciate that question. in the aviation industry the ntsb just released its report about the dream liner 787 battery. battery. when there was a problem the faa grounded worldwide, the entire fleet, until something was fixed. we are stopping everything and honoring safety. >> the same culture that this agency has to adopt, is that correct? >> that is why i am bringing it up. the questions about incentives versus punishment , the safety has to be proactive. being safe is really not just t

and that's where i hope people begin to understand that this is not anecdotal. this is now found in statistics of the f.b.i. you know contrary to, you know, the mainstream media's advocacy and depiction, what has happened in this country, where we've had concealed carry is that crime has dropped. and the bishop and i were just talking about something that he had read just recently that validated that. we don't have to fight on conjecture or with conjecture or anecdotal stories. the f.b.i. now will tell you that that is the case. >> let me just add to that. just shows this dichotomy, because one of the things that i'm sticking with is that, you know, we are going to have to do something. and there have been areas to help these young people that don't carry the understanding of what to do with a weapon. and if in fact -- in fact, they already are having problems. in many cases -- i also oversaw the juvenile justice system for georgia for about a year. in the process of that, here you have people that were bouncing around from one juvenile facility to another and e

that was my understanding but there are two individuals that are seeking appointment to that seat. >> thank you. >> so before it comes forward let's have any of the applicants that are here to come forward to make a statement. >> good morning, my name is chris, and i am the district ten representative on the cac, and i just wanted to speak to you, with a couple of things that i have been doing over the last couple of years and as in the last, year, on the vice chair and early on in the term, i was, and i organized a community meeting to get us in for the community members of the projects that were happening in our neighborhoods and i brought together a lot of agencies dpw and cal trains and train, and mta and i really feel like this is an important part of my job, as communicating to the community and what things are going on and so i continue that and i maintain a blog at which i often will talk about the transportation issues, and i use other various means like next door and the groups in the communities to talk to people about the different things going on in the community to try t

we had a lot of anxiety and understandable anxiety. it's understandable. the way you counter. intimately involved in both. it's that we are trying to communicate to the people that this virus is transmitted by direct contact with bodily fluids, blood, feces, vomit, things people don't like to talk about. health care workers are most at risk. they put themselves and run into the fire and not away. that's why we have the risk translated into infection. that gets extrapolated. and they think how everyone is at risk. they have to show the scientific facts argued that they are not. i remember being on ted coppell night line trying to explain to someone who is arguing against me that the risk, this was 1982 and 83. they say why don't we not allow gay waiters to wait on tables in greenwich village. a substantial proportion of them are infected. what if they have a cut on their hand and put a plate down and you have a cut on your hand and you pick a plate up and you can get hiv. this is a probability curve. it is more likely that you will get hit boy a car as you walk out of the resta

people need to understand what is the goal. again, president obama has laid it out degrade and ultimately defeat isis but we haven't really described what defeat looks like. and i would argue that then limiting action -- first of all not particularly wise. i don't know why you would ever signal to your enemy what you will and will not do to defeat them. but you're limiting that activity. so again, i would really urge as we continue our discussion in the next congress let's understand reality which is going to require hearings. it's going to require the participation of this administration. let's understand what the achieveable goal is. let's understand what it is going to take to achieve that goal. and then let's craft the authorization for use of military force specifically to achieve that goal not tie the hands of the commander in chief who is

it understand it doesn't -- it's counterintuitive, but that's the way the charter raze. reads. >> in this case the special meeting on january 7, but that would be your last day. >> now, there have a number of allegations made in terms of non compliance with ethical requirements and we heard free the retirement board, sort of their -- at least the executive director's view as to the question of incompatible activities. . does the city attorney's office have an opinion as to whether or not this individual has complied with all the ethical requirements under state law? >> i can only speak to what i know based on the public filings and conversation with ms. jordan . as supervisor avalos mentioned, the executive director of the retirement board received a complaint that ms. jordan had accepted an investment while a member of the retirement board where the company had granted her the ability to invest even though her amount was below the threshold. the statement of incompatible activities is a local law adopted by the ethics commission for each individual city department and c

understand what really exists.because part of why we have things that affect us, ancillary laws that affect us is because , we don't take the time to look at what happens here and now that affects later on. and we have to make sure we focus on that. theree to make sure that is some understanding. and then whatever your response is after that that is fine. ,you have to have that understanding. i will tell you, the vast majority of police officers are not out here to hurt people. i have been in this business over 30 some years. have i fired officers that have? yes. will i continue? yes. no police officer wants a bad police officer around him. because the issue then becomes that guy has information on me and my family that i do not want the bad guys to get a hold of. it is some pieces in there that -- a drug dealer would love to get the information that he has on me to have some kind of negative response. so, you know that is the vast , majority. do we have bad apples? yes. should we get rid of them? yes. should they

we have to make sure that there is an understanding that you've got to have that understanding. i will tell you i agree the majority of the police officers are not out here to hurt people. i've been in this business over 37 years. though i continue, yes. no police officer once a bad police officer around him. the issue becomes he has information on me and my family that i don't want the bad guys to get a hold of so there are some pieces in there that interview would love to get the information that he has on me to have some kind of negative response. so that's the mass majority. we have bad apples, yes. should they go to the penitentiary area when they commit a crime, yes. but we need to have a focus on where that is and not do a blanket emotional response on addressing these issues because then what is going to be the long-term alternative and what is going to happen, where will you get people? >> i want to edit the importance of the two things i talked about initially. we need to get the officers trained because an awful lot of bad incidences for the force is used, not because

so this was one simple man's understanding, hardworking man, god-fearing man's understanding of natural law and natural right encompassed in the declaration of independence, but protected by the constitution of the united states. had gone to world war ii to defend that constitution and all the blessings that it bestows on of us who were blessed to be raised and be citizens of greatountry, it gives me pleasure to work with an hasnization that since 1871 constitutional right to self-protection and the arms.to bear ladies and gentlemen, as a former mayor, i know that the obligation of elected leaders of a city is to provide a safe environment. i also know, from working with nowets, that what we are experiencing in city after city, county after county, are budgets tight that it has actually reduced personnel on responset and reduced time. and whether it's sheriff david orrk in milwaukee county james craig in detroit, as they understand that when you have situations response time is minutes, all harm can be done to you and your family. you have a fundamental right, if you so yourself, tootec

we understand the clock. we certainly won't resolve anything and get there this afternoon in the next few hours. but i do think this discussion is important. we all agree this discussion has to conclude this is not one party's fight against dash but rather it reflects our united decision to defeat dash. the world needs to understand it from the united states congress above all. our coalition partners need to know that from all of you. the men and women of the armed forces deserve to know it from all of you. that's why this matters. toward that end we ask you to work closely with us on a bipartisan basis to develop language that provides a clear signal of support for our ongoing military operations against dash. our position on the text is really pretty straightforward. the aumf should give the president the clear mandate and flexibility to successfully prosecute the armed conflict against dash and affiliated forces. it should be limited to the threat posed by that group and by forces associated with it. i wil

. >> i understand completely.but i also want to assure you that we're working very collaboratively with high-speed rail. those meetings have been going in month in and month out to try to make sure that we identify anything that creates issues and whether it's dynamic outlines for vehicles, whether it's heights or whether it's the power requirements, all of these things are, in fact, ongoing. and will continue to be ongoing. the compatibility is a different way of saying level-boarding. and there are many ways to achieve level-boarding. so if go back to the slides, those are the key considerations that we have to look at. you wind up with vehicle performance, that casey talked about earlier. the compatibility of the desire to go ahead and have the emus that have better acceleration. one of the things that we have to be careful of and it's an issue that was raised a few minutes ago concerning the continued use of the diesel fleet. if we do go it a 50" platform at that time, our current fleet becomes incompatible wi

as you know i represent the building inspections and private property owners and developers we understand why you're putting forth this legislation but we have some serious heart burn with the mandate and specifically you know we talked about mature consent we worked with sf puc and the sf puc staff and are shthsd ousted language he said those agreements will be by mature consent so beyond the city bids out it's serviced why not allow pg&e and the puc to bid for the contract, if you will, to supply the power we don't understand why you feel it is necessary for the city to simply mandate you'll take power from the city if we find it to do so we have serious problems with it supervisor and we have problems with the fact if you're going to go into a building that is a one hundred square feet we we have a city tenant that's 10 thousand one square feet it allows the sfpuc to do a power spilling that to the building we that as mature consent and agreement we don't understand why the city feels it has to take over thirty this situation and mandate if you will, and mandate a private developer and

the hardware, understanding the techniques, understand the environment that we are operating in that prepares us to go to distances as far as mars with a reasonable risk assessment. >> is additional funding needed to speed up the platform you have just expressed? >> additional funding can help with that spent how much additional funding would be required by way of example to speed up the mars part of the mission scope do so in the 2020s, somewhere around 2030? >> again, i think i would like to take that question for the record. it's more than just funding. it's not only fun thing but it's also how long it takes us to actually get proficient at these skills to go take that next step. to give you a real answer i need to spend time with our teams looking at how long we think those activities take, and then back in to the funded discussion. >> i hope you can understand this subcommittee's concerns when it took us less than a decade not only to go around the moon but to land on the moon under apollo come and with what i am hearing to testify to come it's going to be 10 to 20 years to just

but deepen the understanding in order to beat them. understand we understand their motivation.religious and we will not beat them. we don't talk about religious ideology in the public domain in the west. on the other side they do. to understand the now form of communism, america was well equipped to defeat extremist ideology. that's where the debate should be. undercutting the strength which the be extremist had. >> you said something significant. it is a religious issue and you can't combat it without looking at that. we are pushed to the side and said that is politically incorrect and never bring up it is a religious passion for that. are you blowing that by not acknowledging it is drip by radical islamist? >> you are right to identify it. and one of the reasons i was keen. you understand power of religion as a motivation and form of behavior. our political correctness on this front is our weakness and they poke fun of the west and having analysis paralysis. we analyst and are not blunt in saying, you represent an extreme fridge of is extremist islam. we are to defeat you. an

lewis and local 2 has brought up but your understanding it's tricky to fix this flaw my intention to introduce trailing legislation that comes at a later time but not language that holds up tens of thousand of retail workers i'm making a commitment to follow up with the trailing legislation but i appreciate mr. lewis's attendance to this i'll say that nick from my staff is doing his by the evidence with the city attorney's office but we can't hold up the legislation but i'll foil with the trailing legislation thank you, mr. lewis. >> next speaker >> jane from the s f w thank you for the legislation and the contracted property services and security happy to see that in there i wanted to support the request that we address this issue around restaurants and side hotels and actually it is important for the vacs advocates we continue to supporting each other and rather have this dealt with up front but it's a big deal we make sure there is no intended consequences and workers support each other as we try to improve things i wanted to say we approve the six months waiting period but no ram