we have to understand the battles. we have to understand not just battles but home life. we have to understand people. we have to look at them as people, first and foremost understanding that these are people thoughts feelings, and , the emotions, and these are the same things they struggled with 150 plus years ago, and without that, we are lost, and without that, we cannot accurately portray them, and we cannot accurately discuss, and we can't do future generations that service of broadening their horizons of better understanding, so that is my spiel. i am going to turn it over to -- yes, it is your turn. i talked. my throat hurts. i am going to turn it over to mr. bill ratcliffe. he is going to be fine. [applause] you got this. you do not have a wireless. you see? >> good afternoon, everybody. i cannot speak in the third person. my makeup does not allow me to do that. i am one of those funny people who has to think about what they are going to say and before they forget it, write it down, so with sister nicole's wonderful dissertation that i enjoyed, i am going to do my

to build back the sensitivity that ida b wells has been known for and the concerns over safety i understand then to have our students hear the consultations without speaking with any member of ida b wells that's the problems we're trying to deal with i that in the discussions as voices are recommended i hope all voices get repealed and thank you all o'connell parents and students for being here please remember we're talking about students we may not understand the layer of problems that students face evidence but we feed to honor our young people thank you four listening to our co-location and the problems in making the moves in the middle of a school year we voice our opinions last year thank you for that but now we're in a situation we need not to point our fingers but dooerng to help and students understand the intrinsic value and building the actions around safety and community we need to put all our students first thank you. >> thank you, ms. kraevenz. >> i'm mark i'm also an o'connell parent a senior who say was assigned there in any event grade and gone through she's graduating in 3

understand how they think about the world. and understand all of that.nd it has to do with religion. it has to do with culture. it has to do with understanding -- >> psychology. >> all of that. which -- some would consider a look at intelligence, not just -- >> and -- the intelligence system is a strategic advantage for us if we use it properly. and i think for most part we do. but that's exactly the issue to get at that. and people are going to go oh, we know these guys -- why don't we know this? >> and at the same time you're saying that's the way you have to go but don't for a second think that this is a solvable problem by military action. >> absolutely. and in fact -- >> because it won't be effective or because under the circumstances today it's hard to -- it's hard to get the national will to do that. >> that's right. >> not only here because of iraq and afghanistan. >> right. >> but also places in europe. western europe. >> yeah. so something else, too. that you're getting at. and this is -- this is really the time -- sort of the strategic time li

we understand it? that's why we have people like you. >> yeah. i mean i think there are some that have really taken a hard look at this thing and, from my perspective as i was going through the last -- frankly, the last ten years, and i spent five years in iraq and afghanistan, it suddenly occurred to me -- you mentioned the fixing intel report -- it occurred to me we were basically going after individuals, sort of the capture-kill you hear a lot about, instead of trying to understand why they were actually doing what they were doing. we sort of went to where are they and let's get them versus understanding why are they there. and i think we now i do believe, have individuals who are really trying to understand what it is that we're facing and it's going to be something that's going to go on for a long time. >> charlie: just tell me what the appeal is and why muslim leaders will say these are not -- they don't even want to call those members of i.s.i.s. muslims. >> right. >> charlie: because they're sa

my understanding. >> no, i understand. >> mr. duffy? >> commissioner, joe duffy dbi, the building permit under appeal was filed on november 12th, 2014 and through intake at dbi, i was routed to the planning department, approved by the current planning on the 12th of november the following went through building plan check on the 13th of november mechanical plan check and got issued on the 13th of november it's a form 8 over the current permit to remove illegal kitchen and bedroom on third bedroom, convert to rom pus room and storage. there are no active complaints on the property so it was not to comply with the notice of violation, i think you heard that earlier. but it looks like it was properly approved by dbi for what we do in these cases someone came in said they had an illegal kitchen, showed that on the plans and it was reflected as a single family dwelling on the permit, so the department approved the permit. i'm available for any questions. >> mr. duffy did you check the 3r on this? >> the only thing i did was i checked t

. >> we want to understand the evolution of these pathogens. >> this team deals with the deadliest pathogens on the planet. >> all the damage microscopic agent. lindsay moran is ex-c.i.a., she's about to join them. entering a biolab. >> sorry, we cannot confirm your identity >>> why ebola is not the biggest concern? >> what is going to be like ebola, but we haven't seen it yet. dr charlotte mcshane is a mechanical engineer. tonight what she learnt about tornados. phil torres. that's our team now let's do -- i'm phil torres. i'm an entomologist. that's hour team nout let's do some science. >>> hey, guys welcome to "techknow", joined by dr ross shimabuku, and lindsay moran. microscopic things have been making news. viruses. take ebola - it caught america offguard. in some places we overreacted and in other places we doesn't do enough. >> there's a lot of scare around ebola, because we don't know much about it compared to measles. which is also a hot topic. >> when we think of diseases we tend to think of containment. how do we contain them. i had an opportunity to meet a small group of scienti

i understand it now. and i work so hard to get it to look the way it does, and do the tippings -- things it does, and it takes so much training and sacrifice. it is what it is, it's art. people will look at it, judge it, and if that's what i - i understand that that's what i'm going to get back by putting myself out there on the stage. i feel comfortable with it. >> i was going to ask, are you insecure about that? >> i think everyone's body is constantly changing. it's a battle to maintain and so, of course, there are times, but for the most part, no. i'm comfortable being in this position, and being a professional for 15 years, my body is my instrument. >> it occurred to me when you said that, knowing what a role model you are for young girls, that is a great message they can get from you about being secure in who they are, even when people are critical. it's a lot. i think that no one can just kind of convince themselves of this on their own. every day. forget the haters and what they are saying. we all

we have to understand the battles. we have to understand not just battles, but home life. we have to understand people. we have to look at them as people. first and foremost, understanding that these are people, thoughts feelings, emotions. the same things we have today, the same things we hold dear today are the same things they struggled with 150 plus years ago. without that they're lost. and without that, we can't accurately portray it. and we can't accurately discuss. and we can't do future generations that service of broadening the horizons and better understanding. so that is my spiel. i'm going to turn it over to -- yeah, it's your turn. i talked. my throat hurtles. i'm going to go ahead and turn it over to mr. bill radcliffe. he's going be fine. [ applause ] >> you got this. you don't have a wireless mic. see. >> good afternoon, everybody. i -- i can't speak in the third person. my makeup doesn't allow me to do that. i'm one of those funny people that have to think about what they're going to say and before they forget it, write it down. so with sister nicole's won

i understand it.hen a young person hear's somebody who can talk about star wars and these things in a language that they understand, they are able to hear the ideas behind them for the first time ever. so i love to tell you all these people come and sign up but i will tell you one thing in the times i have had one on one conversations it is astonishing how easy it is to flip these people. tammy bruce pointed that out to me once. she's a current lesbian. she saw the light and started asking questions. we were at an event not together, but at the same event, and she asked me once, he shpd, do you ever realize how easy it is 20 minutes of talking to these people and they're solidly converted. because they don't know what they believe because their ideas don't stand up to scrutiny. they believe what they believe for the same reason the empire has no clues. everybody agrees if you don't see the magnificent blue vest that's only the stupid don't see the magnificence of the embroidery. all it takes one littl

so, we are interested in understanding what the requirements of the natural system are and also understanding how major land uses in that basin, particularly agriculture affect the water quality in the river. narrator: the suwannee river basin faces two major obstacles in the future -- increased demand and increased pollution. an average 1,000 people move into the region daily using freshwater for their homes and septic systems. pollution levels in the basin are also increased when farmers spread fertilizers high in nutrients such as phosphorous and nitrate, on crops for increased yields. the excess fertilizer not used by the crops can be carried to rivers causing algae and other plants to grow. this can change water quality, rendering it unfit for human consumption. dr. graham's task is to produce mathematical models used to predict how these factors and others work together to determine the health of the ecosystem. with these models, she hopes to avoid some of the mistakes that were made in the past in florida. dr. graham: well, the suwannee river basin in florida is relatively undeveloped,

because we want to understand how does the development of a forest occur. determina que la planta ha muerto. y aquí se pone el código de que es muerta. narrator: these sties have led to hypotheses on how so many rare species can survive with so few individuals. of the 300 species in this plot 15 to 20 of them are represented by a single individual. dr. davies: how do these individual species, just with one tree how do they survive? how do they produce? the two hypotheses about how rare species get maintained -- the pollinators may be very mobile. they may be able to travel large distances to find their mates, to find individuals of the same species to reproduce. the second one is that they may be self-fertile. that means they may just reproduce themselves. and then they don't need any other individuals nearby. rrator: the scientists have also formed theories on why the common species are unable to take over. and the reason is that common species when they reproduce seedlings -- they produce more seedlings than rare species, but those common species the comm

and so we have to understand our rights as unher dances -- inheritances, and we have to understand our rights as defining relations to other people in a society. it's one way of seeing that burke and paine are both liberals, but they argue about it from very different angles from a very different point of origin. paine always wants to understand the liberal organization as a break from the past made possible by new insights that were gained in the enlightenment. burke always wants to understand a liberal society as an extension of the best of western civilization, not as something newly discovered, but as something gradually built up and evolved over many many generations, so as something connected to the western tradition rather than fundamentally a rejection of the western tradition. and that debate between them ends up being a debate between a side that sees the liberal society as a break to be advanced, to be brought to full, fully into being or as an achievement to be conserved. in that sense, a progress i vision of liberalism and a conservative vision of liberalism from the very

>> i understand. if and when we get to that point, where we propose an option to bring them to the united states, we will have an answer. >> i think we need an answer at that point. thank you. in terms of other than the taliban five piece, how many 30 day congressional notifications meeting the requirements of the nda has been sent to the committee in the past year? >> i don't know the number. in other cases the 30 day notification was provided. >> and then there's some concern that the detainees that are being transferred, it's on an assessment from more than three years ago by the guantanamo review task force. as we look at this the periodic review process was created in part to regularly update this. do you know what has caused the slowness of this? do you find that to be true and do you know what caused the slowness of this? >> i want to separate two things here, sir. if somebody's already been cleared by the 2009 task force and we find a place to which we can transfer them and a package is brough

needed to understand.book writing friends who kept telling me you need to write this book and i said i am not sure about this. give me some time. so i went to 500 boxes and found different pieces of the story and a variety of different record groups and once i saw the story and i had the narrative in my mind i found an agent and we had a publisher and i wrote it. spin >> is this rated so that they could understand. people like to read about other people and so i chose three scientists to focus on. the one we talked about earlier was a very interesting man. you grow up a poor farm boy and ticket out of farming he studied biology and went to indiana university and studied biology and she said repeatedly totally by accident he tripped into malaria which i could identify with because it was totally by accident and he had the budget to go down and study the swamps in leesburg and they would acknowledge the foundation project. it was run by sylvia darling who was one of the leading thinkers of malaria and what t

do you understand your mother adult? >> i have more of an understanding and appreciation. of course, i will never know probably until i'm a parent, but i try every day to understand. >> of course, you said the battle in my mind and spirit raged on. was that just you trying to work through the aftermath of everything. is that what that was? >> yes. to recover emotionally psychologically and then to be thrown into a new ballet studio. the only studio i knew was someone i took my first class at and was cynthia bradley. it was intimidating. people had preconceived ideas of who i was because they saw me all over the newspapers, and it was terrifying for me to walk into a school and we judged and people looking at me as though this is a prodigy, let's see what she has. >> it was a lot of pressure. >> it was a lot of pressure and a lot to handle after going through what i went through. >> you are now one of the world's famous ballet dancers, you are a soloist at the american ballet theatre. have you commercials, books, a reality show. so many things have come after this difficult

we want to understand there's a plan. >> there's - we are working on it and to the extent that a plan can stay statistic by security. >> exactly there is a concerted effort that includes the major security providers and includes a lot of providers outside of the city and government but effect city life and related to that question whether the port or the city is contemplating insurance. >> that is i did not know i'll find out. >> i'm not sure if this is for you sidney. >> are redoing my joint exercise with any other departments in the city. >> this could be considered a joint experience although we're inviting people to the port we never respond alone in my of the event you probably knows at the waterfront the coast guard still has the prospective response are the agencies and within the city we work together with all of them both region will and stale level. >> i heard in the brief that your training volunteers. >> we have really the whole port becomes involved if you look at people's job descriptions there's not a response lisdz in that is a a real estate proposed managers descripti

you say the understands -- that doesn't do anything for me. understands, nose, believes suspects, what other firms do you need? detests the courts of appeals adopted for two decades which is the test that we ask this court to adopt is the employer needs sufficient information from any source about the employe, the applicant's religious needs that to permit the employer to understand the existence -- the courts of appeals have been -- >> i don't care what they did. that makes no sense to me. the reason it makes sense in this case is if it is sufficient knowledge for you to act upon it the critical point is if they had not, if the employer had not assumed this was religious, had not believed it, they would have hired her. the default rule for i am not sure is to hire. >> the first one responsible for hiring, didn't she say to the district manager she is wearing a head scarf for religious reasons and that is why i am checking it out with you. the answer she got back was it doesn't matter whether it is for religious reasons, we don't accommodate p

they understand the value of science. science under the bolsheviks just bloomed in terms of the numbers of institutions because they believed it in a way that the czars government didn't and that included huge labs for pavlov including the science village they built for him outside of leningrad. and so toward the end of his life pavlov and the bolsheviks became a little more public it. he never ceased criticizing terror and he saved countless people from the glove. he wrote letters to stalin and give public speeches in stalin's time denouncing the terror denouncing the suppression of religion. he literally when they sent somebody by his lab to purge his lab literally kicked the guy down the steps and out of the building yelling get him "the hill" out. but on the other hand -- >> host: he can only protect it so far can be? >> guest: this is already under stalin talks but on the other hand he saw science developing. in 1933 hitler comes to power and as he did under the czars he ceases to criticize his government publicly in

at the commission level understand where we are headed overall. does that make sense? and at this point i guess not all of the things that are identified here so far are on the capital plans. okay. so some are and some are not. so somehow we need to figure out what to do, then. >> you mean funded. >> well, i think you have things in the capital plan that are not funded as well. that's right. >> but all of these --. >> i'm not sure everything on here is on the capital plan in terms of needs, but some of them are. so i'm trying to correlate between what the capital plan says and what this says and how we connect between the two different reports. >> right. >> and how do we categorize these in the future so we have a better plan of understanding besides prioritizing public safety. >> what we do at the staff level, not that we're trying to demonstrate with all of these items, but all of what is in winnie's report is in the capital plan as an identified need, it's not all funded. she has given you a chart that shows you which ones are funded. >> well t

understanding how these particles play a roll in whether a cloud will produce rain or through. >> theentists trying to understand the science as fast as we can but the choices that humans make are going to be the thing that determines how fast we can fix this problem. coming up techknow, standing up to tropical force winds we want to hear what you think about these stories. join the conversation by following us on twitter and at aljazeera.com/techknow. >> welcome back to techknow. we are talking extreme weather events. over this last year, we have seen some big ones. >> the scientific community is tackling this head-on. there are a lot of economic consequences as well. raise. >> recently, noaa published results saying there were eight specific weather events that cost over $1,000,000,000. i went to a lab where they can actually simulate that kind of devastation. let's take a look. >> nan concrete chamber seven stories tall and big enough to hold nine football fields, they are making some of the most violent weather in america. ♪ >> tell me about the space. this is a unique facility. w

help me understand that. you understand this? this city. these business owners that have nothing that are digging in their own pockets, okay? trying to build themselves back up where they used to be but yet we have a movement that he created talking about black lives matter. black lives matter in ferguson where they need you right now. you understand what i'm saying? that's why i don't support it. i'll get more in detail why i don't support black lives matter, all lives matter. neil: we touched on this before how is it he seems to be the default go-to guy of the african-american community or the media made him that. and guys like you have a different point of view. in the name of terrance ballard but everybody. guys like you articulate a gritty view of life that is not heard generally in the media. >> for one, and it's unfortunate, not just in the african-american community a lot of people can't think for themselves. i'm a man who relies on god's dependence, the holy spirit for dependence. so we have to rely on him each and every day. this

it's important for lawyers to understand you have to speaking bush come in a language people understandand if we try to convey our emotions our feelings and our strategy in terms that all americans can understand especially young people who might aspire to be lawyers. people studying political science we try to reach out to that audience. >> host: what is your sense of gay marriage being seen as accepted and spread across the country. >> guest: i'm glad you asked that question. we asked through three states in which individuals could marry the person they love if it happened to the a person of the same sex. today, five years later, 33 states where take nice marriage equality. can you imagine? and the american public was against marriage equality by a factor of 17 points or something like that. now it is maybe ten or 12% on the other side. young americans people under 30, 75 to 80% belief in marriage equality and respect the rights of gay and lesbians to get married. that is the case of the years at the of the remarkable transformation of american public opinion. all in favor of people w

i think we understand that the stipend hours permit you're here for doesn't show up on your original billow you went to cammy we understand that but other builds for the tax collector you didn't pay we're trying to understand how well, you run your business whether there are an annual fees to pay to the city you haven't. >> in addition when you got our extended hours permit to 3:00 o'clock you were given a permit and paid a fee and had that permit correct and when the officers came to ask you to see your permit did i refuse to show them the permit? >> no, i didn't. >> you didn't so the officer that submitted this to us didn't he will tell the truth. >> in my point of view. >> not our point of view you did it or didn't you refused to show him. >> i have - >> when the city official asked for your permit and i've not said that mime answer is i'm going to assist you because i'm going to get into the process of understanding why we're here - okay eject go if you were to go back a year back there was a person of the badge come twice and part of the files i made those myself once upon a tim

i understand the value that they have. i am a political science major, and i do understand the way congress works. but it is important to look at the facts that the past session has been the most inactive session of congress. it has not passed as many things and an immigration reform bill which is what everyone wants the majority of the american public wants, these folks who are good individuals can have a line to get in back of and what the president is doing is trying to get a lot of the criminals and other undocumented folks here out of the country to try to provide a lead for the folks who are currently here looking for more opportunities and looking for a better life some temporary relief unless congress can pass the reform bill. host: we will go to clark in bloomfield, new jersey. good morning. caller: hi. you know i am listening here i am listening to this. and can you hear me? host: sure can, clark. go ahead. you are on the air. caller: i am going throughout the year, i live in the same area, you know for 20, 30, 5

you know and it's a combination of understanding the future understanding technology understanding atthe same time with deep feeling the might of people. >> i totally believe this. and every advanced economy either will have a strategy to deal with this. or at least help. or it is just going to get worse. the reality. an here's the thing for america. we were built on a premise. my father was an immigrant and came here with nothing. my story is not unique. it's very common. and you know the idea here was that here in america you could go as far as your effort and fall ent will take you. and there was this notion that if you worked hard you would be rewarded for that effort. and that was the value around which we built our whole gestalt and economy as well. if we lose that we're going to lose fundamentally what we identify the american dream, i think if you mention the american dream to people today the average person, they think that that is something from mythology. they don't really believe it any more. because they're worker harder and harder and not getting ahead. we've got to rest

i understand that we have to have safe schools. and i am... my wife's a teacher, my oldest son's a teacher, i'm a former teacher. i want them safe in school, i want my grandchildren safe in school. that's not what i'm talking about. what i am saying is that we still need to go back to some of the old-fashioned, "you have to stay and do detention, you have to go clean up this room," or, "you have to do something," other than being put out of school. we have children who are learning disabled, who have ieps that say that they're special needs kids. there's laws that govern how many days they can be suspended from school. and people are not paying attention to those laws. see, teachers and principals are being evaluated. and they're losing their jobs because of what's happening in the schools. so they want to have a controlled school to show that they can run a good school. >> hinojosa: so it's all this kind of, like, one... a notch on top of another notch. when these kids do end up in your courtroom, and you do have to see them and p

they also understand our panelists also understand why and how small institutions fail. this can help us target regulatory relief to the smallest institutions for example, in ohio 80%, 80% of the community banks in my state are under500 million in total assets. these are the types of institutions that feel the impact of burdensome regulations the most whether providing another report to their regulator or needing to hire another employee for compliance. last, mr. chairman, i look forward to hearing more about the gripper review currently under way. the fed, the occ and fdic are required by law to review these -- to review regulations and identify those duplicative, outdated or unnecessary the state regulatory agents and cfpb participate in this exercise voluntarily in addition to the three that are required. this review supplements a significant analysis of impacts that the agencies also do while writing a rule. i appreciate that you've already held meetings in los angeles and dallas and planned ahead and hold meetings in boston chicago, washington and rural areas later

and i can understand that. but also i think that coming in and really pressing this issue this was a consistent and daily basis and many people were wondering who is she? we haven't seen her around washington. and so i have a lot of pushback from within the press corps and. and there are pushback situations as well. there was a lot of pushback. and so i got a lot of pushback. >> let's break it down into three categories. because you write about not only your interaction with other reporters and your interactions with presidents, but of course press secretaries as well. can you talk about a couple of those moments you start under the bush administration tony snow was the new press secretary and what happened with this? >> oh, my goodness, the first day, he was with the rockstar in chief, so many people were in that room. and i mean you have the designated seats and you think i can wait until the two-minute warning get my feet. but that was not the case. and so i was on the right side of the wall and there were t

generally more skeptical of formula retail than our anchorage person reading the case report and understanding who is going on i move to approve this with the conditions outlined. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i had a question on the signage it's hard to tell whether it's not drawing it looks like it is going to be cafe bank and going to be in red i guess it looks like two colors and not sure i would ask that the project sponsor continue to work with the staff that is fine if you can answer the question. >> there are two halo list signs on the walls and one projecting sign that is on the edge or will be on the edge of the building. >> i'm trying to fought the color scheme. >> the reproduction. >> that should be fine as long as you can see what's there that's fine. >> the bank on suggestion of the planning department did modify the sign. >> okay. thank you. >> made them smaller and halos. >> commissioner there is a motion and a second to approve that with conditions. >> commissioner antonini. >> commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards is commission

as the product and we understand the things they it can do for us and its frailties. so it's an opportunity to reflect on the nature that is really important part of our culture. >> host: do you come from a historic history background or medical background? >> guest: i come from a history background. in fact, as a high school and even college student i shied away from science a bit. i came to the history of science and medicine because i was interested in the question, how did human beings make up their opinion? how do they come to opinions about things? and so i studied the history of ideas, a little psychology, a little sociology and akin to the history of science because historians of science view it as a scientist make up their minds about things. nature is infinitely complicated complicated. two different scientists looking at nature in two different times and places will look at it two different ways depending on their values, their methods, their philosophies. and so draw very different conclusions about it. and i found that process really fascinating for 40 ye

here's what i don't understand. and mcdonald's and at&t and all these companies didn't put out adds i'm quite certain that guy in the story would be all over them for not paying attention to it. is. >> that's a good point. it's a difference to me shows reverence, and studying our history and what nike is doing which is blatantly capitalizing off of black history month with very little they're giving back to the community back in return for the billions of dollars that they frankly pilfered from the community over decades. >> what do you mean by they pill ferd from the community? >> -- pilfered from the community? >> jordans made for pennys, sold for hundreds of dollars. for decades people have been quite frankly been being killed over those shoes. billions and billions of dollars are spent largely from the black community to purchase those shoes. and when you are looking at the funding of nike as far as their philanthropic efforts notwithstanding the program you've mentioned which quite frankly is the first time i'v

my clients do understand the nature of the decision to seek to legalize the unit and they understand that it does come with a request to seek a transition of a tenant from a premises, and as a result, what they've done is hired an attorney to make sure that all the appropriate steps are done absolutely in compliance with san francisco rent control law and california law, and in particular, the steps that had been taken was when i was retained we served a notice of intent to demolish the unit in october, notifying mr. mccabe of the intent to seek to restore the unit, the single family home to its original status and thereafter after october, in november we sought the permits that were before you tonight. we thereafter served a 60 day notice of termination of tenancy and that 60 day notice of termination of tenancy articulates the rules ask regulations that an individual must follow in san francisco in order to actually remove a unit from housing use. this is strictly a requirement of the san francisco rent ordinance and that notice has the permits attached that notice articulates the

>> hunh-unh. 23 was in elaines numbers. >> in terms of understanding the plans behind it other than just the numbers what you are hoping to do with it. >> we got thrown a curve ball with those substructure issues so we're still struggling with that. >> what i would like to say is that david did submit a pile remove project and it scored well, but the time related to the permit and what our pile driving crew could accomplish made us push it to the following capital budget. he did submit that project and it did score well, but we couldn't see the ability to get it done with the permitting issues and the capacity of our pile driving plans. >> but even if it's in the capital plan doesn't mean it has to be completed this year, right? >> no, but we were looking for projects that needed money next year. what we have in line for pile removal will be exhausted next year should we get a satisfactory resolution to the pile driving so we funded more in next budget year it wouldn't be utilized. we were looking for projects that could utilize funds next year. >> i totally appreciate that but i would l

of them than i would and maybe understand the background and so on. but having said that, hillary clinton is a rock star within the democratic party and its interesting that most of them say they will support her as democrats i am not convinced that she will pull the trigger when she has to and ron. and if she does i do not think that it's a foregone conclusion that she's the nominee or elected president. i don't think that she will be elected president. and let me see why because people sometimes say it is inevitable. it is inevitable for her to be the nominee in 2008 and is relatively unknown upstart junior senator who sponsored this era legislation in his senate career named barack obama, came up and beat her. so let's let recent history be guide of what they would hold. >> who might it be this time? who you think would surpass her in this. >> she may get in it it may not be her, elizabeth warren, she has an interesting voice but she does touch the nerves of a lot of people on the left. and i think it could be somebody that we really haven't though