so it's really special to me because i get to be with people that understandhat it's like. >> whenevere can share stuff then some people know exactly how we felt. so that just makes me feel good that other people have the same experience. >> that was a reminder, i just want to be here and give it my all. this camp is only five days long but all the things we have here and all the fun. >> sometimes kids start counting fingers and it's important to have the kids recognize. not only other kids with other things like that but there are hand differences just like them. >> they show their scars. one girl, says, oh, yeah, i have that, too. we have exactly the same things. >> they come here and see for the first time, you have the same scars as i do. i'll never forget the first time two little seven-year-olds took their shirt off. one of them reached over and touched it because they never seen it on another person. >> my goodness. >> it was just tear-jerker but it was just so powerful what that one moment was for that child to open their eyes and say oh, there is someone like me. it changes th

i don't know what is conservative about an immigration plan although i do understandhat we're talking. actually the issue over high skilled immigrants has been on the table for years, silicon valley for ars has said it has trouble hiring the number of skilled people of phd at once, it has wanted the ability to hire more, it has never been able to do that because washington on both parties has said we can reallget to your question until we solve this larger issue of immigration policy. what these companies is dng is quite appropriate. of course they are acting in their self-interest. th is what any shareholder wo want to do, to act in their self-interest. they are not trying to save the world by hiring more phd's. charles: a lot of ople say he is trying to have it bothays. >> some studies suggest 40% of the foune 500 compies are created th way. apple, google, oracle, colgate, ibm, home depot, boeingll treated by children of immigrants or immigrants. a better economic multiplier effect with a loosening up of the visa program because instead of government spending you have companies crea