>> those discussions are currently part of the mediation process being underwaken by judge rosen. we thank judge rosen and his team of mediators for that process, and we hope we'll be able to get to some more definitive numbers. what i can say is that we hope it's consensual. >> reporter: what do you think -- >> reporter: [ inaudible ] put on hold? is that still going forward january 1st? >> no, it is still onhold. we decided it was best that we extend that for two months and we are still going to do that. >> reporter: extend it to when? >> march 1st. >> reporter: when do you think you'll actually have the details of the plan adjustment in place realistically? >> we -- we -- my legal team headed by the attorneys you have seen, bruce bennett, david highman, and the other attorneys involved, we're preparing a plan of adjustment right now. we're going to work throughout this month even through the holiday to produce a plan for our labor partners, and so they can look at that plan and we'll actually file it probably in the first week of february. >> reporter: mr. orr you talked about