lou: back to obammacare, the former cms director undethe bush administration.ng that this thing is going to work at some point and he is a vy bright thinker. but the reality is that we are talking about trillions of dollars and elise in the democratic party, no one gives a darn what happens tothe money and what would be the consequences of the path it has been chosen here? >> it cost too much and he cares too little. the strategist told me the other day that we inherited a bad deal in the next island. a bad deal when we did our job and notes for someone else to work out and that's not the way you govern things. that is unconscionable that the president would take this position and the president had to take the position and he said that it's going to work well by 27. >> closing in on this issue, that is mitch mcconnell sing that it's time to stand up the tea party and the gop establishment that has to do better. seems to be republican leaders are embring us. >> i hope that that is not the broader subject. i think that what mcconnell was trying to say is don't ha

and it's really undethe bush administration that this global health piece went from being a tiny piecebudget to over half of aids and mlaria and neglected diseases. and that is where we work and have experti on and that is completely because we are in thereooking at the numbers all the time. >> i think smart folks, i think they would right away get it to you in right away rough your foundation. because you do get a lot of bang for the buck. a fan of higher taxes on the upper income and the government doing mo and spending more and when he had this, though, he chosto commit the money and not to the u.s. government. what does that tell you? >> it tells me that we have three sectors, the private sect that is the iggest and is phenomenal. anything they can do in terms of the needs that people can pay. it's fantastic. and we have things like education or government comes in and philanthropy, it can be more innovative and willing to take far out science and new delivery programs. so there is a complemtary rol ae and so often we are taking this expertise and we talking about what we know and