most of it undigested in her stomach. both of you say something had to happen, whether it was the abscess or some other tia type of event or something that -- >> larry: we got it. dr. pinsky, what would you say? >> i think that is a potential theory. she impulsively took some substances in an attempt to gain relief from whatever she was experienced in an altered state. that's a viable explanation. i must say, i mean there are things -- it's a mystery, let's face it. it's just a horrible situation. and it is still shrouded in mystery. alcohol is a substance that people use to hide their drinking. but yet she has no organ damage to suggest she is a regular user. she had -- vodka is something people use to hide their drinking of alcohol. and, you know, there's no evidence that she is a chronic user on the pathology specimen. yet, i would trust the results if there is was something there. but i would try to come up with an explanation of why this woman, in an altered state might have done this? >> larry: do you -- do you unde