maybe you years ago, were undiversified and at 120. then there was a fidelity 50 fund.ck holdings in your portfolio? what has it meant a today? >> it's a great luxury to have clients that let us do that. we have been able to double the market return since we started 17 years ago. that is notave done just what we own, but what we don't. tom: exactly. learn, here -- we all it's precisely that, what you don't own. >> and you also have to look at the asset classes. i think that's important as well. tom: where are you on large cap, small cap? are only going to own 18 you can't afford the volatility of a small-cap portfolio. they are very, multinational, with the all trade in the united states. guy: how was your reaction to the massive increase in passive money? well, that is part of the reason we stick with a small number of stocking states undiversified. is that theor that closer you get to homogenous market like funds, in order to justify are considerably higher than passive management, we need to outperform the market by a lot. you can't do that if you oh 200 or 300 stock