vulnerable minersminors, most of whom were regular status as citizens, but many had parents who were undonald. but now with this election, there's not a lot to hope for? on one of our parties, they're arguing about who is going to be harder, tougher, more exclusive. >> well, when i was ten years old, i was one of the folks that had various in the rule committee in washington state. and i remember during school one day, my parents, specifically my mother was not there anymore because she had been part of that raid. and so at that moment, when i was thinking about who are our leaders the national level of presidency i wasn't necessarily thinking about what is going to make it better or worse, so i think in trying to answer that question, it's not are we going to get better or worse, but how can we work together more, right? how can we join moraleiances. >> did your mother end up being sent back? >> yes, she did. >> did she make it back to the united states? >> she did a year later. >> so you've lived this issue, and do we have any good estimate on how many minor children are facing this kind of