>> well, number one, the problem is that univision has 72% of an audience that is unduplicated.y don't watch english language newscast. if the rnc, if the republicans want to reach hispanics, they want to do so on univision. jorge, their powerful anchor, he makes that a big issue, whether he's talking to obama or the republicans, he always brings up immigration. what he's probably doing tonight is talking about what they passed today. to roll back obama's executive actions. the problem with univision is for republicans, is that they basically are trying to reach these voters, but in a way of talking about immigration, they don't want to talk about immigration. >> exactly. so they can't pull off, you know, there's this phrase dog whistle politics, where you send a signal that only a certain group of people can hear, they cannot call off dog whistle politics because the sound is heard by latino media, univision, telemundo, and others, that broadcast it, and they can't sweep it under the rug. >> they can't sweep it under the rug. i spoke to jorge ramos and some of the executives ov