utility executives themselves think it's totally uneconomic. two of them in texas plain shut down uneconomic. natural gas is killing nuclear power. but if you look at the existing ones, they're aging, many of them are near earthquake faults like indian point, 30 miles north of new york city? imagine. evacuating new york city? >> it's hysterical fear mongering. >> there's not one example of an evacuation plan. >> it's hysterical. >> let's all agree there's no plan. >> that's not true. >> a future generation will use it. >> governor, that's not true. let me start by just addressing one point. 33 countries in the world -- >> hang on. we're going to go to break. and so when they built fukushima and chernobyl and three mile island, they told us there was almost no chance of a meltdown. michael, you say the nukes are safe. but when we come back, i'll ask you, what makes you so sure. [ male announcer ] this is brad. his day of coaching begins with knee pain, when... [ man ] hey, brad, want to trade the all-day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what

the alternative to nuclear power, which uneconomic and can't be privately financed, has to be 100% -- almost 100% government loan guarantees. corporate socialism to you. the alternative is energy efficiency. that's the first platform for energy policy all over the world. we waste enormous amounts of energy, a megawatt of energy we don't waste is a megawatt of energy you don't have to produce. that's the fastest, cheaps, most job-intensive way. that's even before we get into biomatt, that is eventually going to be the dominant in of the world. >> we have an amazing multiple of subsidy -- and the -- we're going to continue an amazing substitute. the. >> announcer: -- >> we've been subsidizing it for the last 30 years, but michael, let me ask you, you coming from the environmental community and now being a supporter of nuke lard energy, you telling us that's the way to go, aren't you concerned about radiation in our water and air, wildlife and people? and if you can support nuclear energy, why not clean coal like in montana? why not wind power with abundant natural gas or stored pump ene

this is another problem, as they try to convince young people to buy uneconomic policies that they're now saying is your data even going to be secure. this thing could unravel if young people don't sign up. >> what's the political response, particularly from the democrats in the senate? are we seeing them begin to get nervous about this? any breaks for the administration? >> you know, we are, at least in congress, not in the administration, and that's because, you know, i think the website problems have been almost a distraction to the real problem here which is this is trying to sell the american people. they're look at the product now, they're finding they're losing the insurance they want, and they're being forced into something that for manies of americans will be expensive. what you're seeing is a lot of the red state democrats are getting very nervous about what the political impact of this will be. there are some people who think even on tuesday's elections in some of the states, it might be an issue, because people are just hopping angry about the product being forced upon the

you're still -- it costs $185,000 to maintain this without your drug, so it's not like your drug is uneconomichat's why people are not choosing it. >> that's an important point, because the payers understood the value of gatix. >> is it an issue of not having enough people learn about it or is it just actually looking really good and there's some people who just -- some analysts who got ahead from what you can do in a herculean effort? >> that's an important point. we promised and we delivered and we actually exceeded our internal expectations and we exceeded the revenue expectations of the street. >> can you do $198 million double this pace? >> we'll see, 2014 we'll give you the guidance. >> i just want to be sure that it's not a smaller market than we first thought when you came on the show. >> we don't have any indication that it is smaller, and i could add that now we opened international. >> right. >> international is in itself a very interesting big market as well. >> okay. december 6th, analysts coming up. this is from that. did you really submit a 443,000 page document? >> that's what

we let you go and we got our panel here, is there a number at which the health care plans become uneconomicget the folks with pre-existing conditions, elderly, higher medical cost but don't get those to fund the pool how long -- everyone says give it time, give it time they will sign up and they will balance out. is there a point where you say can't do it? >> you can't make that determination in just a few weeks or even a few months. you have to look at what happens with your pool, your population of people. right now i will say that from what we've seen early on that it is skewed towards older individuals 50 and above, a lot fewer under 30. and so i'm concerned about that. and over time it's clear we need to have young people, healthier people in the pool to balance the mix and so that's one of the fundamental problems we're going to need to make sure gets addressed. as we go forward here. >> first you need to heal. thank you very much for joining us. we do appreciate that. >>> let's bring back our free market panel friday. all right, guys. anybody want to jump in on that. i thought he was

. >> yeah, but it's uneconomical. if you aren't already there and dominating that market, there is not much sense in you going in it that's the purpose of the affordable care act. they think it's messy to have so many different insurance choices. so many different plans available to you to have doctors competing against other doctors and hospitals competing against hospitals. have the government set the prices. have the government set the reimbursements. make all insurance products lookalike. minimize the differences between insurance companies and insurance products and people will be better off. and, look, they aren't going to be. and not only that but we he have known it since the beginning. >> how sure are you in the next 12 months that obamacare is going to creator get worse. how sure are you? 9 a to 100%. >> what do you think? do you think it's going to be hunky-dory in a year? that marianne march and barack obama are right? >> do you want me to answer because i have got to go. 7 a% chance that the republicans s

you're above 250% of the federal poverty level, subsidies tail off enough that it's probably very uneconomical for you to get into the exchange. so if you're forced to buy a policy, a family of four earning $90,000 could be spending 25% of their after tax income on health care. >> will the senate democrats do anything about this? they went into -- they're all panicked. the election cuccinelli in virginia, the guy almost won, down 15 points, nearly won. people getting up for re-election. will they make any changes these senate democrats or is it all sound and fury signifying nothing? >> i think they will try to make changes for political purposes. they will not change the individual mandate. they're not going to permanently eliminate the mandate on businesses. they don't want to take effect before the midterm election which is why the president suspended it. but, no, they won't make any fundamental change. and quite frankly, i think they expect to fail. i think they're driving this toward a single payor health care system. >> who expects to fail? will why i thi >> i think the architects expect