that could be uneen because you can have constituents who are on unside or the other, but i think it's been my experience that there is a demand for accountability that is growing, made easier by twitter and everything else, made easier by the people than used to be that pushed up against this and the place that i've seen a lot of incredible transformation is in is global health. there are motivations that people have systems so you can manage biosecurity. there are faith-based perspectives across the spectrums. there are disease, and this and that, this and that and it's transparency, data and demand that have transformed that feel in such a way that you've got extraordinary constellations of actors working together in the same direction. is that quite that neat and tied up in a bow? absolutely not, but it's a lot less difficult than your question i think suggests it might be and that's certainly been my experience. >> i think i've been in and around this type of operation for 35 years and it is much better than it was, and i think you need only look at, to pick one of many examples,