any politician who's in office when unemoyment is high is going to have difficulty. chris: yeah. is somody telling him, his pollsters, axelrod, the p.r. people, are they telling him be careful, don't brag about anything? >> i don't think that's it. i think the president, unlike say bill clinton and unlike ronald reagan, simply is not as good at playing partisan politics. he really does believe that the policy seldom sells. >> he was elected not to be a partisan democrat. let me make one more point, chris, which is that if you look at the actual general voter, you see the difference between the politician is nothat great. the reason they're going to lose is enthusiasm and anger. chris: let's get to that. >> and tt is fox news, a different media environme and -- chris: not everybody watches fox news. swe have our regular panelists and asked the meter could president oba have limited the midterm democrats to health care and still done health care and big economic stimulus? eit sayes, it was how he did it politically and four said no, he would have paid the price. you believe there w

i want to talk about jobs, on the minds of every american, 9.9% unemoyment. look at this chart, a tale of woe in this country. go back to august 2009. since that point, unemployment has been at 9.5% or higher. at's 14 straht months. congressman kirk, i'll start with you. what do you do at this point? >> as the federal government, to spurt job creation? >> what happens when the borrowed money runs out? secondly, this congress has been very, very viciously anti-business, new taxes, new regulations. we need senars and congressmen that will back pro-growth agenda. my small business bill of rights, ten new policies to help out the number one employers in illois and the united states, small business. half of al the jobs, 80% of the job losses in the great recession. they can't afford a washington lobbyist to go find stilus money or a washington lawyer to wade through the latest 1,000-page bill that congressional leaders haven't even re. tax relief, tax cuts is the job creation? >> we don't pass legislation to take away your right to a secret ballot in a union elect

. >> rose: is ere somethi that the esident and theongress could have done abouthe unemoyment that they did no do other than a trillion-doll stimulus program? >> charlie i juston't think so. you could have spent trillion dollars and you know you would have maybe shaved 1.5% or two percentage points off the unemployme rate for a while. well, you think that everyone would be a lot happier if it was at 8% unemployment? i don't think it would have changed the potical calculation thatch and that would have would have been a lot of money. the more money you spend at this point, it takes more to accomplish even a little bit now. we're at that point of the cycle. and it's a little bit like pushing on a string which is often used to talk about monetary policy. but it can also be used to talk about fiscal pocy. it's just... medicine is becoming less and less effective. and i don't think that there is a whole that the president could do. we have a huge... we had a huge cred bubble, we ha a huge reduction in ourealth, we had a he misallotion of capital as well as the financial capital d it takes ti