supervisor avalos: that sets up a competitive model with unemployed union labor. you have the demand for limited construction jobs. that sets up tension on how we are advancing a new work force or one that is not as skilled into an arena that would go to those who are more skilled but out of work. >> the other thing is to broaden the definition of construction. we are looking at other opportunities in the construction sector like administrative positions. there are a number of opportunities that first source can provide on the professional services side. we want to get more young people into engineering and surveying. all of these project manager jobs are related to construction. we need to broaden the trades out. those jobs are year round. they are not as subjected to the union tension on the trade side. we are looking at other opportunities within the construction sector to broaden the opportunities we would have. we realize we're not going to get everybody a job in construction. we realize we need to have a mix that accommodates gender issues. we worked hard on