. >> on cooking the books, what about the charge that the 7.8% unemployedment number was cooked? >> i think that the obama-romne debate, romney came across as somebody witsome stature and you cou visualize him in the white house. fast f forward to the debate between paul ryan and vice esident biden and uc paul ryan not as vice president, but perhaps the head of the office of management and budget. [crosstalk] >> the girl wants to say something. >> why should she be allowed? >> well, because she should. >> i thohought it was interesting that, paul ryan, who was talking about the economimic stuff you know, he h has in his own band some of you can criticize him for his veracity, but he did fine. when it c came to foreign policy, you can almost see the flip cards in his brain. it had no similitude to real knowledge of the then having crammed for the exam -- real knowledge other r than van ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] combine the pnc cashbuilder viscredit card with a quala ifying pnc performance select checking account and earn 75% more than cards earning 1% cash bk on almost everyt

contracts to be taken at lower prices, took construction costs dome, and it gave work to what were unemployededpeople. if we wind up creating a national infrastructure bank, we seem to be headed in a similar economic direction right now, and it might be a good time to create the bank, and in this case, have the federal government provide work to people who may -- the ma -- many people who may be losing their jobs. >> do i infer correctly the original sponsors were more politicians than businessmen? >> that's -- i would say the originalled idea came from this failed first grain merchant of western new york who failed because he had no way to get the grain from western new york back east. that was in 1807, and in 1808, a couple of new york state senators get legislation passed to at least get a first survey done of a possible route, and boast of those legislatures are legislatures, they are also happen to be western new york pioneer, and so it's in their interest, but they also, i think, had a broader interest because they saw the greater possibilities of laying a canal of upstate new york, acces