and this nobel prize winner says that america is the most unequal advanced country in the world and give solutions to create what he sees as a fair economy. and this journalist investigates the increasing use of black tar heroin in america and the drug's popularity. .. >> as we speak, alaska has just legalized general recreational use. and public opinion has shifted very much in that direction. and pretty dramatically. maybe even more dramatically than gay marriage this shift in public opinion to the favorable side. and, you know, 20 years 15, 20 years ago maybe 20% of the american people were in favor of legalization, now something like 60%. and given the evidence we thought it important to write this book, and no one else seemed to be writing it, and i don't think anyone has, about why this is a bad idea. the other thing is and this is very relevant is as public opinion has softened on marijuana -- maybe 60% in favor of legalization -- the scie

distributed and had always been unequally distributed. the ideal of a meritocracy or depiction of a meritocracy determined by testing became a safety valve. we have this conversation who gets what in societies what resources, the pinpoint to educational tests as they are in the path forward for people who work hard enough and are smart enough and therefore we have an open society. what is really astonishing when you look at the history of up to that point is after brown versus board of education, standardized tests, now called achievement test took a very different turn and they began to be sort of put forward as an instrument of equity and something i was going to be raised at vestiges of the legacy of race for the in the process of desegregating schools. we would use these tests to measure what would now be called the achievement gap in the differential achievement of people from that runs primarily lower income and minority groups with now is something that would be overcome with rigor and hard work. i believe many people who adopted t

this unequal access to opportunity resulted in generations of unequitable outcomes for alaana communities. racial justice is a key goal, but in san francisco we look braurder for womenards organizations. queer and lgb trkts and trands gender communities and artist are critical as well as nairnd f neighborhood. equity is broader than race, but race is a critical part. the grant marker izin the arts going tasay the social inequities are reflected in the funding of private philanth rope therefore to more equitable support funders should take action to change funding behaviors and norms. they list a number of suggested recommendation and one example is explicit focus on equity in how they run their ocean. they are critical on focus of diversity [inaudible] their board of directors make racial equity in arts a primary focus of their organization. they varacial equity board committee. they have structure raishism train wg all the board and staff members and they assure representation by diverse artist, key note speakers and panelist at the annual conferences and convening and think there is one

tremendous prosperity that san francisco is seeing blue there's audio side in the prosperity the most unequal supply in the country we see that on the streets that's a testament we are talking about we're saying it is not enough to have prosperity but to make sure we take care of those who are on the streets it is ultimately who we are how we treat those who have the at least and in the st. francis homelessness e homeless people having it have a place to go i'm grateful but unfortunately, we've seen the board of supervisors saving don't sleep in the parks or sit on the sidewalks instead of continuing to go down the path of criminalizing people we're giving people a place to go thank you very much (clapping.) >> thank you supervisor campos and i'll say the next time people will fund ice cream for everyone in the crowd i want to thank everyone behind and in front of the of me my colleagues on the board of supervisors on their support supervisor campos in particular for his leadership in the mission district and mayor ed lee and to motional i've never seep beacon hill duffey so happy beacon hill

secondly, it makes american income and wealth more and more unequal.he reason we have the fourth most unequal distribution of wealth is because of fake trade. unprecedented quantitative easing policy for the government uses the cash in our pockets to buy up assets and drive those asset prices up further and further is because of fake trade. the reason we have a federal deficit is because we have a trade deficit. the what happens is, the tpp fast-track transatlantic version of tpp these dramatically increase the amount of countries with whom we have this relationship. they quadruple them. they put us on a fast-track he toll where america's nothing but cheap labor. amy: i want to turn to president obama speaking in february after he began a major push for transpacific ownership. >> this is bipartisan legislation, strongly trade does with asia to europe that aren't just free, but our fair. it would level the playing field for american workers. it would hold all countries to the same high labor and environment will standards to which we hold ourselves. now

opportunity to being able to access the system, users will rely on elevators are exposed to very unequal ways of accessing the system. if i were a biker, i could lift my bike up the stairs and up the escalator, but i don't have an option. so what many of us thought it would be a much more appropriate response to actually when we have long-term outages and in stations and the closest place to travel is so far away is to have a shuttle on call or waiting rather than trying to deal with the 3-hour or 4-hour wait. it's just not an equivalent way of access ing the system. i understand the people with disabilities get a discounted fair but the exposures we have on a daily basis, i know you said the added bart center in the station, but safety is an issue and there is no proper force : we are exposed to crack smoke and other issues. >> we do have a service advisory that we send out throughout our website, text, e-mail, to let people know the status of the elevators. that's one thing. if it doesn't help you, the para transit service is on a demand where walden house -- when there is an elevator.

we are time to take on jim crow, lynching disenfranchisement, unequal health care and unequal housing and education. this is an organization that 75% of its funds come from african-americans. and african americans did not have a lot of disposable income to even pay. this is an organization whose agenda consistently outstrips its budget. trying to figure out what his priorities were -- so you had to camps at least. there was that, we need to focus on the issues at home. that camp was led primarily by -- his last name was luis. alfred baker lewis. and also by rc . when of the things he said to walter white was why are you traipsing all over the world when negroes are more concerned about jobs and security? the pushback was that white supremacy was global. so trying to take on white supremacy only in the united states was not going to solve the problem. this thing had to be eradicated root and branch globally because that was the only way that real human rights and real dignity would come about. the walter white said, it makes no more sense to think of this is only an american issue than

we are trying to take on unequal education and housing. and this is an organization in with 75% of its funding comes from african-americans. african-americans did not have a lot of disposable income to even pay the dues, so this was an organization whose agenda consistently outstripped its budget. so, trying to figure out what its priorities were, you had two camps, at least. there was the -- we need to focus on the issues at home -- that camp was led to primarily by -- his last name is lewis, i just blanked. >> alexander lewis? >> thank you. alfred baker lewis? . and also by the president of the naacp. it was just -- it was just -- one of the things he said was -- why are you traipsing all over the world when negroes are more concerned about jobs and security? the pushback was that white supremacy was global and that through trying to take on white supremacy only in the united states it was not going to solve the problem. this thing had to be eradicated root and branch globally because that was the only way that real human rights and real

the problem that we seize unequal justice across the board. i personally been in a situation where i called out police in my home to enforce the judge's order. not to talk about racial profiling. 2 sets of times but a 911 call forces of officers failed to enforce a judge's order. we need to look at this process. the system is broken. you consider at not seem listening to committee rolling her eyes and think us what we can do about this. geocities committee that existed for a long time. an organization existed for them they didn't have the capacity to address all the misconduct. on behalf of police department. the other issue is training. the committee sensitivity yes that's mandatory but the need to be more oversight. yesterday i looked at despite the accountable there look to this body to do oversight and enforcement could not just sit in meetings and listen to complaints. they will produce another reports. reporting is one mechanism but what's the follow is the implementation us up for all those officers involved in texting they need to be 5

gays cannot be targeted, targeted, they cannot be stigmatized they cannot be subjected to special, unequaltreatment. of their basic liberties cannot be denied. >> now, the court will decide two issues. should states be allowed to ban same-sex marriage? and will states recognize same- sex marriages from other states. today the justices are only hearing from attorneys that are they are not expected to issue a ruling until june. meantime, couple from california as part of the same- sex marriage challenge from tennessee before the supreme court. matthew and john moved from the bay area to tennessee about three years ago. with the law firm and sell works for relocated. they were married in california, but tennessee did not recognize their marriage. they say that made a living and tennessee uncomfortable for them. they have since moved back to california and are living in orange county, but they remain part of the tennessee case. >>> it's become a familiar scene. absolute chaos on the streets of baltimore maryland. you can see protesters, middle of the street, fires lit, others have smashed wind

this is the definition of unequal treatment under the law. no one is denying that americans earn their social security and veterans benefits regardless of whether they are gay or straight. and since the supreme court's decision in the windsor case struck down parts of a defense of marriage act no one can deny that the federal government is required to recognize all legal marriages. for almost all federal agencies, this went into effect right away. gay married couples can now file joint taxes in legal proceedings before the federal government same-sex spouses are given the same rights as all other spouses. under the family and medical leave act an employee can now take leave to care for a same-sex spouse. these are just a few of the ways that the federal government brought its policies into line with the law. the social security administration and the v.a., however, are tripped up by an old wording in their authorizing statutes. working together, we can fix this. we can pass legislation to ensure that all legally married couples receive equal

as a result of that, you saw an investment boom that was all most unequaled in our history. that lay the foundation for a very extended. of strong economic growth, and one of the most robust, dynamic recoveries that outlasted the reagan administration. so this is a real-world effect. it can have a tremendous positive impact on the american people. in more formal terms, when you delay the deduction of capital expenses, potentially as long as 39 years under the current system, you raise the cost of capital. a business has to earn more money pretax in order to justify the investment. and as a result, you get less investment. you get less productivity growth. less incorporation of new technologies. and lower real wages than you would otherwise get. if you have a flat tax type environment, or the current tax system, you mold towards expensing the sales tax. similarly by not taxing as consumption the purchase of a machine, but either system gets you to that result. a couple other things. there is a secondary consideration. the current system plays favorites. it picks winners and l

the first issue was unequal pay. to his credit, secretary of war, stanton, attempted from the beginning to ensure that equal pay with enlisted men. it was $13 a month, three of which was a clothing allot 7. the militia act specified that black soldiers would only be paid $10 a month and they would only be used and paid as laborers, not as soldiers. you can imagine how this would sit with proud men of color from the north. they improved themselves in battle and they had done a soldier's duty. why can't we have a soldier's pay? it was not until 1865, march 1865, that those who had been slaves at the time of 1861 had been given the same benefits, including back pay. as i'm sure you rebel that great scene from glory where they refused to pay. that is 5:00 rat. you can imagine the hardship on african american families when they refused to accept pay lower than white troops. and they literally had to go through white and black bethen lant societies. the other thing was the fact that they had not become officers. it had, in

kennedy: yes, the day for women to fight back against unequaling wages, or as department of labor said, the day to act like bat girl. >> i worked for you a long time, and i am paid less than robin. kennedy: look at that sassy pants. >> is it misrepresented, let's ask steve laser, democratic strategist. and kayleen, a political prospect editor, welcome back sister. >> thank you, kennedy. kennedy: indeed, equal payday, hillary clinton said last year in a tweet, 22 years ago, women make -- on dollar than men. there is still more work to do. what is going on? >> that is anti an excellent po, let's celebrate equal payday, and let's look at hillary clinton's senate campaign staff, women made $15,000 less than men, and obama white house women made 10,000 less than men, perhaps they should look in their own hearts and staff, but 77 cent statistic is bogus with similar women, and men, and similar jobs, and education could and background it is a fifth cent differential -- 5 cent differentia differential. kennedy: some people think if you pass a magical legislation you will remedy this with no un

the benefits in our society were unequally distributed and still are. the idea of meritocracy determined by testing became a safety valve. were having a conversation conversation about who gets what in society and who gets what resources and you can point to educational tests and that therefore the people who are the smartest and work the hardest. what hardest. what really kind of astonishing is if you look at the history up to that point, after standardized tests, now called achievement tests it took a very different turn and they began to be a put forth as an instrument of equity. they use these tests to measure what was called the achievement gap and the differential achievement from people from different ink income and race. it would be overcome with rigor and hard work. work. i believe that the many people wouldn't adopted this and vision were well-intentioned. there was a strong undercurrent in educational theory in the 60s and 70s that talk about the fact that we need to raise our expectations and can't be complacent about the hard work of making

court gay rights ruling have said very squarely, guys cannot be targeted, they cannot be subjected to unequal treatment. their basic rights cannot be denied. >> reporter: professor julie knight says court watchers will look for what questions the justices are asking with particular interest in conservative justice anthony kennedy. >> we know we have a mix of conservative and liberals on the court. and we know that california's own anthony kennedy is the swing vote. he's been the author of the bans issued. >> i think it's a little unpredictable. i think they could continue to give some deference to the state but i do think we'll have to clearly recognize what happens in another state. >> reporter: there's a possibility the court could take a bigger step and claim whether same-sex marriage are a different class. similar to gender or race. >> that could have a ripple effect far beyond the specific issue of same-sex marriage. >> reporter: the justices already have many of the arguments in hand. 147 written briefs from both sides have been filed with the court. oral arguments are expected to take

think about american public schools today how they are separate and unequal and becoming increasinglyseparate and then accelerating way i did a great put a great deal of blame on that in the court. i applaud the decision of the united states versus nixon when the court ruled unanimously that the president's claim did not allow him to keep the white house tape secrets. nixon produced the tapes and the obstruction of justice telling the fbi off to investigate the watergate break-in. if they hadn't had the court to enforce the separation of powers i applaud the decision from june june 26 to 2013 holding section three of the defense of marriage act unconstitutional and i'm hopeful that in late june of this year the court will see the state law violated the constitution to be called dignity and at the same right to love and commitment. a cynical reader might think that you like the court when it's liberal and dislike it when it's conservative. how would you respond to that? >> noticed that my examples don't fit into that pattern. let's begin where we started. i knew that no one, liberal or

closing of all windows, skylights, curtains gratitude demand that our country not abandon us to this unequal competition. like what the taxi drivers and hotel industry say. >> we have been here so long, it's working just fine the way it is work. why do we want to bring in the competition. >> what jobs are gone that we maybe don't think about? >> jobs creatively destroyed over the years? telephone operators travel agents who have been replaced by online book. we have a grocery stores with automated checkouts now. we have a lot of fast food restaurants using automated checkouts. >> no more ice deliveries. elevator operators. >> coal guys delivering coal. >> during the industrial revolution some people came into the factories in england and destroyed them. destroyed the machines. >> the ludits, smashing the frames for weaving cloth protesting it needed to be done by hand to protect their way of life and their industry. >> we are buy logically programmed to fear this change. >> change is scary, risk is scary. you know, when the caveman ogg is happily situated in his little cave with his family a

there are many groups and classes that have been historically treated unequally. >> there are people who do discriminate. it's been pointed out by the bill carrier. we know it's happened. people have testified it is their religious right to do so, so what more evidence do we need to say we need a path for people to visit with their government and say this happened will you help me out. >> despite numerous testimony in front of the legislative session, one opponent said the bill had no value. >> nothing in what our state does says that we discriminate or discourage people regardless of who they are, what they do or what their lifestyle is. >> you can hear people laughing in the legislative session at that absurdity. the governor said discrimination based on an individual's sexual orientation is not acceptable. we should have at least established protections in areas of housing and employment. you think? north dakota lawmakers were not forced to move on this issue because there really is no economic pressure here. i standby my statement earlier this week. republicans worship the almigh

there is companies like unequal, that are dealing with technology when it comes to how do you reduceks at every level. there is technology becoming available through the suits and because of the awareness that has been created. melissa: yes. no i certainly see that point of view. you know i just wonder, they may settle this suit because that is a better financial decision. as you continue to fight something over time you rack up lawyers fees. at some point you make a business decision it is cheaper to settle. >> exactly. melissa: we don't know that they knew anything. do you feel you need them to admit that they knew something along the way and didn't share it? >> absolutely not. i think what is important where we are today and not yesterday. as far as players go if there is fair compensation for them, they're talking about 190,000 per player. i'm a part of the suit. i want to make that clear. melissa: i was going to ask you about that. you suffered multiple concussions. you are eligible for the settlement. are you going to be a part of it? >> yes, i am will be a part of it. other pl

it's rooted in the unequal treatment that puerto rico receives because it is a territory. if you want -- if you want to understand why puerto rico has always had higher unemployment and poverty than any state, you must recognize that the territory's excluded from the earned income tax credit program, partially excluded from the child tax credit program, excluded from the supplemental security income program and treated unequally under the federal nutrition assistance program. if you want to understand why puerto rico has high debt, you must realize that the territory government has borrowed so heavily in the bond market in order to compensate for its -- this treatment under federal programs. if you want to understand why patients in puerto rico received inadequate care, why physicians and hospitals are not fairly compensated and why the cost of providing health care is disproportionately borne by the puerto rico government rather than shared equitablely by the federal government, it is not treated fairly under medicaid, medicare advantage and the affordable care act. if yo

we also have -- unequal allies world.we have to confront workplace policy of legislative policy that you don't exist or do exist in ways that are harmful to women. we have to work to make sure that governmental policies workplace policies are creating the kind of environment that truly is gender equal. and i were a little bit at if this is also clearly belongs only to them we create a sense that women may have, some of their doing something wrong. when the road is a much broader issue at play and i was all to work on those bar things and making sure that we reform things at the polls level in order to create true gender equal opportunities. >> dgc patricia arquette at the academy awards and her outspoken is about equal pay? to you think we'll get there, to? >> i was very pleased obviously as i said in my remarks president obama has the lilly ledbetter fair pay act and the federal level but a lot of people thought that was job done like it that way back when president kennedy passed the equal pay whacked way back when that

when you have a society like greece turning into less legally to more unequal society, and you reduce the tax base by allowing the rich to get away without paying their taxes, to have tax immunity, and constantly to be looking small-scale behavior while neglecting the grand scale behavior then you're simply making things worse. believe you me, our proposal -- we all want to come to conclusion quickly. we were prepared months ago to come to an agreement. we are working tirelessly to forge this agreement for the benefits of greeks, europeans and the global community. amy: yanis varoufakis, thank you for being with us, finance minister of greece. january 2015 general election, elected to the greek parliament, representing syriza, and took office in the new government of tsipris soon afterwards. his professor and author of some 15 books. does she is a professor and author of some 15 books. this is democracy now! democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. when we come back, we we're member pedro albizu campos. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, dem

early would write, for long nine months was an unequal contest protracted by the genius of one man, aided by the valor of his force. fourthly let's consider lee's evacuation of richmond at petersburg and the subsequent an appomattox campaign. lee had been working on this evacuation strategy since late february. it incorporated multiple routes to avoid road blocks. he targeted amelia courthouse on the railroad as the concentration point for no fewer than four threads of his scattered army fleeing west from richmond, chesterfield, petersburg, and western dinwitty. lee kindly but perhaps unwisely had given permission to his trusted walter taylor to get married. meaning that lee acted without taylor's competent assistance. and this probably had something to do with the trains that they met in amelia courthouse containing equipment. but not the needed rations. again, time does not permit us to examine the appomattox detail. the decision to wait at amelia courthouse on april the 4th, squandering a one-day lead that his brilliant evacuation gained him was not borne so much of a desire to compens

this city that have the resources, but lack the will to move baltimore from two cities separate and unequal, to one city in which all have the opportunity to grow and flourish. >> gray will be laid to rest on monday. joining me now is paul henderson, veteran prosecutor and legal analyst. also the professor of african-american studies at tufts university. and dr. james peterson msnbc contributor and director of africana studies at lehigh university. mr. henderson, let me turn to you first. the one thing baltimore police have not addressed is why they chased freddie gray to begin with. how will this impact the investigation? >> we heard from the attorney from the police union, which talked about citing case law that allows them to engage a suspect. really here's the problem. it's united states v. jones, which talks about being able to engage an unprovoked suspect in a high crime area. but here's the problem with that. one, that speaks to reasonable suspicion to detain and not probable cause to arrest. and in this case we have an arrest. so it's going to be very important to understand that if

early would write, for long nine months was an unequal contest protracted by the genius of one man, aided by the valor of his force. fourthly let's consider lee's evacuation of richmond at petersburg and the subsequent an appomattox campaign. lee had been working on this evacuation strategy since late february. it incorporated multiple routes to avoid road blocks. he targeted amelia courthouse on the railroad as the concentration point for no fewer than four threads of his scattered army fleeing west from richmond, chesterfield, petersburg, and western dinwitty. lee kindly but perhaps unwisely had given permission to his trusted walter taylor to get married. meaning that lee acted without taylor's competent assistance. and this probably had something to do with the trains that they met in amelia courthouse containing equipment. but not the needed rations. again, time does not permit us to examine the appomattox detail. the decision to wait at amelia courthouse on april the 4th, squandering a one-day lead that his brilliant evacuation gained him was not borne so much of a desire to compens

he said that netanyahu generally at risk of treating their citizens unequally.reference to what netanyahu said about the arab vote. basically what i think obama is saying, not in so many words but very, very close to the line of calling netanyahu racist and implying that policy is racist. that takes you right to the brink of the 1975 u.n. resolution that equated zionism with racism. that is delegitimizing argument. >> why did speaker boehner go to israel at this time especially in light of the fact that there had been such a big spat when prime minister netanyahu came to the united states and president obama didn't want him here. was this just another slap at the president or something else? >> no. i think speaker boehner genuinely believes that the u.s., israel tie is a very important one that the president's reputation has been damaged by the approach. this is the easter recess. this is chance for him to go to the holly land and try to make it up. -- holy land and try to make this up. that's all there is to it. >> big news about the gsa official who threw that

united states to attempt suicide, but they use the feticide law to argue there is a separate and unequalgnant women who can go to jail for crimes because they become pregnant or have the capacity for pregnancy, and it also exposes something very disturbing about what the prosecutor said over and over again. at purvi patel's trial, they said she violated one simple rule -- she should have gone to the doctor. bebe went to the doctor, and did everything they asked her to do, and she got arrested. purvi patel went to the hospital to seek help, and what happened? she got arrested. if you believe you can arrest a pregnant woman because she did not go to the doctor, that will be doctors to think, as they did in florida with samantha burton, that you can force them to go to the doctor. samantha burton went to the hospital, they said you are miscarrying, you must stay here. she said i have two little girls at home, and if god wanted it this baby, god can take the baby. they held her at the hospital, force her into surgery, and she still lost the pregnancy. what people have to fight for his dignit

settings are a little too loose and you are not prepared for speed or your weight is distributed unequally. in this case, the rope pulled me forward and off of my access and somewhat off balance, so when i hit the ramp i was still in get rid of speed wobble road then fly off a bridge mode and i was pretty much out of control when i hit the ramp so there was no chance that i would have done what i expected to do. >> the flip he does as he launches off the bridge, not grandstanding, he says. >> the flip was not part of the plan. i just wanted to launch off the ramp and have a nice view, hang out with the birds and just do a nice big air right into the water and then get rid of my board at the last second. because of the speed wobbles, i was leaning too far back when i hit the ramp. i was probably still going a little too fast and i just got ejected and ragdolled and then i just held on for the ride. as i'm flying through the air, i was mostly thinking, safe landing, like hit the water safely. i did a belly flop. >> it is not exactly the graceful landing he is hoping for. >> when i hit the wa

and we wouldn't still be talking about unequal pay for equal work. i believe that if there is a country that truly believes in equality, it's time to put our money where our mouths are literally, and express that sense of justice on the most widely used currency in international transaction. last week i introduced the put a woman on the 20 act to build on the grassroots campaign working to bring gender equality to our currency. their public campaign has garnered more than half a million votes in support of putting a woman on a 20 dollar bill. i love the idea and was brought to me by a smart young woman on my staff, kay johnson. it's not just a woman's issue, it's an american issue. my bill directs the secretary of a the treasure to solicit recommendations from the public for a woman to be placed on the 20 dollar bill. women have inspired generations of americans for their courage by challenging this nation to protect the civil rights of all americans. women have advocated for voting rights and equal protection under the law and for programs that serv

>> in a similar vein we're concerned with the challenges of rising unequality and how the criminal justice system is actually increasing poverty and to build off what mark said when you have a young person who goes into the prison system that affects... in today's america, that affects their ability to get a good-paying job the rest of their lives. so you're not just burdening that person you're burdening their families. you're burdening the communities. so we have to have a system in which we focus on violent offenders. we move non-violent offenders out of the reach of the criminal justice system. people are able to get back on their feet and they don't have the stigma the rest of their lives. that's a big challenge, as well. >> mark holden, there are so many layers to this problem, this set of problems. how do you decide what are your priorities? what to go after first? >> well, there's a lot to go after, and there's really three guide posts that we have to look at all the different areas. one is everything we do, everything that's done in our criminal justice system should be done to en

states between 2010 and 2014 in search of better quality of life should realize that puerto rico's unequal treatment under key federal programs including but not limited to s.s.i., is the major contributing factor to this migration. let me be chris cal clear on this point. politicians in puerto rico and the states who defend puerto rico's current status must accept the undeniable truth that this status is harming the people of puerto rico. when they rationalize or excuse puerto rico's territory status, they are complicit in puerto rico's mistreatment. but make to mistake the era of inequality is coming to an end. i stand side by side with a large and growing army of proud u.s. citizens from puerto rico who refuse to accept such shameful treatment any longer. we believe in full equality for puerto rico under the american flag. we will fight for it until we achieve it. and we will achieve it soon. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair now recognizes the gentlelady from texas ms. jackson lee, for five minutes. ms. jackson lee: thank you, mr. speaker. as i address the h

lied to the fbi and given his stature -- am i the lone crazy person that thinks that this is sort of unequalhis side of the desk yes. >> tell me why -- >> glen speaks for me on this. i mean i have to look at general petraeus's entire career. i can't remember exactly what and how much information he gave to paula broadwell. >> he gave classified diaries about what went on, which included the names of undercover agents. >> and that's really bad. but you look -- >> yes, that's really bad, period. >> chairman steele go on. >> i think this is a trifecta with the fellas, too. because i too -- >> don't want any female cia. >> no i'm all for that because i think you're right. the whole system would change. you could put a few over at the secret service, too. but i think at the end of the day, that's the bottom line. they looked at the man's record. this was a great man who undid himself. i think that they took into context his contribution and the value that he brought to the country. and they may have looked at the difference between giving that kind of information to your paramour, versus giving -