once you have a badge, that means you have unescorted access to anywhere in the airport. you can load baggage, can you have access to the aircraft, you can do basically anything unescorted. that is concerning if we don't have a better understanding of who these airport workers are. miss rice: certainly the airport operators have to assume an enormous amount of accountability and responsibility. we have to figure out a better way to check to make sure that the information that they are giving to the t.s.a. is correct. thank you, mr. roth. ms. fitzmaurice, and ms. he glofere. i yield back. mr. katko: the chair now recognizes mr. rogers from alabama for questions. mr. rogers: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. roth, this could be for miss fitzmaurice, both of you made statements that inferred you don't have access to database that is would give you the relevant information to make sure that the staffers don't get the badges s that what i'm hearing? you made reference a while ago you can't do your job without access to important information. you're saying that you don't have that a

so you're telling me we've got people walking around unescorted in secure areas in our airports and we don't even have. -- have their social security numbers. john roth: that's correct. we did a scrub of the data and found a number of areas in which they don't have their passports or social security numbers. mr. carter: holy cow. ms. fitzmaurice, the report and the inspector general's investigation found that we had thousands of incomplete or in accurate and biographical information. could you give me the initial of your first name? s. now i've got three minutes left to ask questions here. do you think i can guess your first name in that three minutes? and my point is simply this -- we have applications that only have the first initial of the first name? stacey fitzmaurice: that is correct. mr. carter: does -- does that scare you? stacey fitzmaurice: so i think we are absolutely looking at and concerned with where we have erroneous and missing information, and we are taking actions, we have already. -- already implemented logic. mr. carter: and i appreciate that, ms. fitzmaurice, i rea

once you have a badge, that means you have unescorted access to anywhere in the airport. you can load baggage, can you have access to the aircraft, you can do basically anything unescorted. that is concerning if we don't have a better understanding of who these airport workers are. miss rice: certainly the airport operators have to assume an enormous amount of accountability and responsibility. we have to figure out a better way to check to make sure that the information that they are giving to the t.s.a. is correct. thank you, mr. roth. ms. fitzmaurice, and ms. glover. i yield back. mr. katko: the chair now recognizes mr. rogers from alabama for questions. mr. rogers: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. roth, this could be for miss fitzmaurice, both of you made statements that inferred you don't have access to database that is would give you the relevant information to make sure that the staffers don't get the badges s that what i'm hearing? you made reference a while ago you can't do your job without access to important information. you're saying that you don't have that acces

busiest airport, in atlanta hartsfield-jackson airport, that we could have people walking around unescorted. in secure areas and that airport where we do not know their social security numbers and we do not know their names. and that's something that we're sitting here talking about? you ought to be on the phone right now, stop, we've got to figure this out. i -- i -- i just -- i'm appalled at this. and mr. roth, i appreciate the efforts here and i appreciate all the efforts of all of you, but we need to take care of this admittedly. mr. chairman, i yield. john katko: well, thank you, mr. carter. and i think the committee shares your frustration and that's why we had something else scheduled for today on passenger rail safety and transportation safety. instead we chose to have this hearing. and i want to juxtapose tsa's turtle-like response to seemingly serious problems with what the committee has done. we found out about this less than a week ago. we're having a hearing today and marking up a bill to fix this problem right at the committee. so the point is, if you have issues and you need

load baggage, have access, do basically anything unescorted. that is concerning. >> thank you. i yield back my time. >> the chair now recognizes mr. rogers alabama. >> you have further you'll have access to give you the relevant information to make sure they don't get it. you made reference a little while ago. is saying you don't have that access. >> we do have access. we're seeking access to additional intelligence information. >> that is a database we're seeking automated access. >> pursued any axis. >> am trying to figure out why we should have access to the database. >> why wouldn't you already people again? >> will we have to understand is that the watchlist which are maintained by the fbi terror screening centers individuals who impose threats to transportation and we receive those watch lists purposes of our vetting. we're recognized over time and understanding the additional intelligence information the value of what we do by identifying potentially individuals who may be unknown. >> who has control of the database now? >> maintained by the nct see >> are they giving yo

know the genius that put together the honor dorm that had these guys in civilian cloets, had them unescorted movement throughout the facility. >> that's why i asked the question. now you anxioused it. but, also, shouldn't they have known? shouldn't something have been up with this joyce mitchell person? shouldn't someone at the facility have said wait a minute? >> there's a whole bunch of flags where somebody shoumd have looked and they didn't. >> when we last spoke to you, you thought that vermont lead, that it was a red herring. do you think that tonight? >> yeah, it didn't seem like there's a lot of substance around it. it seemed like it was an offhanded comment related to somebody. it seemed like a great opportunity for the vermont governor to get in on the act. >> do you think the escapees could be holding hostages? >> i think that's a distinct possibility. you know, you look at christopher dorner the former l.a. police officer, he was watching the man hunt from a cabin nearby. they were surprised by the plan going awry. and they're on foot. it would be logical to get inside as quickly

they worked for major airlines, were airport vendor and other employees with unescorted access to airport hat because tsa does not have complete access to every tsa terror watch list. >> this is a classic example of not working together as they should. tsa and dhs are really at lead here. >> the fear, airport workers could fa sill site an insider an tack. drew griffin uncovered employees with access to airports and tar max were not screened daily, thoughs the agency said it ramped up random screening after a handler was caught smuggling guns onto a plane in atlanta. >>> scrutiny over the vetting process comes after embarrassing news the agency's officers failed to detect weapons and fake explosives almost every time undercover teams put them to the test. >> it just points to a larger problem that tsa has, in making sure that their operations are running smoothly. it comes from leadership. and not having a leader in place for some time now i think has detrimental to the agencies. >> other problems the inspector general for you, tsa was less effective in making sure workers had not committe

they worked with unescorted access to planes, tarmac and luggage.step happens because tsa does not have access to every terror agency's watch list. >> who's to blame? tsa and dhs are really at lied here. >> reporter: the fear, airport workers with terror links could facilitate an insider attack. in an investigation, drew griffin uncovered employees with access to tarmacs and planes were not screened daily eye. although they ramped up random screening after a baggage handle you are was caught smuggling guns onto commercial planes in atlanta. skraut any over tsa's vetting process comes after embarrassing news the agency's officers failed to dent weapons and fake explosives almost every time undercover teams put them to the test. >> it just points to a larger problem that tsa has in making sure that their operations are running smoothly. and it comes from leadership and not having a leader in place for some time now i think has been detrimental to the agency. >> reporter: renee marsh, cnn, washington. >>> the u.s. supreme court has ruled that americans

what i understand to be an honor dorm where they were allowed to wear civilian clothe, allowed unescortedertain parts of the facility. i don't know whose idea that was, but given the classification of these inmates specifically, that's absurd. i mean it just should not have happened. the other thing like i said, for months nobody was checking these cells. and on the night these guys disappeared, they were last seen at 10:30 at night discovered 5:30 in the morning missing. you mean to tell me over a seven hour period you had bed checks where you have to see a living breathing body, nobody saw them in a cell and it wasn't reported? i just -- the security of the institution has major flaws and failures. and i think that's the reason governor cuomo is assigning inspector general to look at it. and i think that investigation will be quite interesting. >> all right. bernard kerik, thanks for your time. appreciate that. and up next, don't look now, but donald trump is in second place in the latest polls. trump on the debate stage, should be jeb bush's worst nightmare. that's next with the round

they had unescorted movement, which is bizarre and crazy, from what i understand.nd you know, you could have contractors, you could have less, less of a classification of inmate working in an institution in some mainttans capacity that could have gotten them this equipment. so time will tell. two things are for sure, one they're going to get caught, and two, they're going to figure out exactly how it happened. so just time will tell. liz: i like that, one, they're going to get caught, let us see. bernie, great to see you again. bernard kerik, former new york pd police commissioner. >>> 40 minutes until the closing bell rings. we have stocks we need to let you know about. netflix, slightly moving down a percentage point here. at this price, $664, it hit multiple all-time highs this past year. same with starbucks, a slight tiny sell-off. citrix systems, activist saying the new citrix system plan, you never want that when you have the company leader, the activists are sniffing around. and krispy kreme with a sweet report saying it did better than expected with sales.

they worked for major airlines where airport vendors and other employees with unescorted access to commercials the tarmac tarmac and luggage. tsa does not have complete access to every agency's terror watch list. >> this is a classic example of them not working together as they should. and so who's to blame? tsa and dhs are really at lead here. >> reporter: the fear airport workers with terror links could facilitate an insider attack. in a cnn investigation, drew griffin uncovered employees with access to airplanes and tarmacs were not screened daily. although the agency says it ramped up random screening after a baggage handler was caught smuggling guns onto commercial planes in atlanta. scrutiny over tsa's vetting process comes after embarrassing news the agency's officers failed to detect weapons and fake explosives almost every time undercover teams put them to the test. >> it points to a larger problem that tsa has in making sure that their operations are running smoothly. and it comes from leadership. and not having a leader in place for some time now i think has been detrimental to the

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an individual is not a correctional officer can walk unescorted throughout prisons through jails and prisons in new york. >> with budgetary cuts or not the woman would have had to have flipped. it looks like she may have been involved. this is an elaborate scheme norman. they had to get the power tools, figure out the blueprints of the underground pipes. there is the woman who allegedly helped them. they had to figure out how to do this at a time when no one else wothem. i don't know were they paying off other prisners so they wouldn't talk. >> i don't think it works like that so much as it would that a construction company comes into the department of corrections and begins power tooling and using electronic devices and stuff like that during the course of the day, i believe that this took place during the course of the day. they did everything they had to do between the working hours of when the construction companies were there in the facilities and they were not being watched. they were not being supervised. >> it's interesting because now they're saying they wereapparently able

can't believe that in a world's busiest airport, we could have people walking around on escorted -- unescorted, whose social security number we don't know or their names. we are talking about this? we have to be at the phone right now. we have to figure this out. i am appalled at this. i appreciate the efforts here, and i appreciate all the efforts of all of you but we need to take care of this immediately. i yield. mr. katko: thank you, mr. carter, i think the committee shares her frustration. -- your frustration. instead, we chose to have this human. i want to juxtapose tsa's response to serious problems with what the committee has done. we found out about this a week ago. we are having a hearing today and are marking up a bill to fix this problem. the point is -- if you have issues, and you need things done, i encourage tsa to come to us because we can give you fixes rather than waiting a year to hope to get something while gaps continue. i know tsa is working on issues. we had a problem at pre-check. a bill is being introduced next week to deal with expanding the project program. we have t