lincoln knew it, so he says to state the question more directly, are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, and the government itself to go to pieces, lest that one be violated?" what's he saying? taylor? >> actually looking for the preservation of the union and the constitution, if we have to violate one law, to keep the rest of the country going, then it's okay. >> yeah. what do you guys make of that argument? if it's necessary to violate one law, it's okay. if it means preserving the union. do you sacrifice some things that might be unconstitutional to do, do you sacrifice them in order to save the union? what do you think? mary? >> definitely, like we do that all the time, we see in times of war, like us being, censoring ourselves and the patriot act, for example, like it's done throughout our history, just to serve our nation. >> maddie? >> i was just going to say, at the same time, it's not even, like it is a state's constitutional right to leave, if they feel oppressed by government, so i think he's kind of like injecting his own opinion and saying that we're saving the constitution