[laughter] i mean, he was unfailingly nice. if i, if i said i'm working on it and i hope to have another chapter to give you a few months, you know, he would, as i said, make you feel like you were the most important person, he would say, oh, don't you worry about it, you just keep doing what you're doing, and it's marvelous that you're doing this at all, you know, but i knew that he was frustrated, sure. >> okay, thank you. >> when a man comes out on a significant problem, often -- where a man comes i on the on a significant problem often depends on his early upbringing and education. would you talk about justice brennan's early upbringing, his education both through the schools before college, college and law school and how that affected his life on the court and his decision making? >> are absolutely. justy brennan's upbringing, he grew up in newark, new jersey, that's where he was born in 1906. he was the son of two irish immigrants who grew up about 10 miles apart and they would have never met had they stayed in the irelan

he was unfailingly nice. if i said i'm working on it and hope to have its in a few months , you know, as i said, he would make you feel like you were the most important person. don't you worry about it. you just keep doing what you're doing. it's marvelous that you're doing this at all. i knew that he was frustrated. sure. >> thank you. >> where a man comes out on a significant problem often depends on his early upbringing and education. would you talk about justice brennan's early upbringing, his education both through the schools, before college, his college and law school, and how that affected his life on the court and his decision making. >> absolutely. his upbringing, he grew up in newark, new jersey where he was born in 1906. he was the son of two irish emigrants to both grow up in county roscommon. they grew up 10 miles apart and would have never met and they stayed in ireland. his father was a stationary firemen. he helped operate the boilers at a brewery. then he rose up through his union and became