he may know russian stuff unfear for his life.o he's not as they say a fully cooperating witness. >> he still has a privilege against self incrimination. the sulgtern district of prosecutors were amiff because he wouldn't tell them everything. if he starts to back up, invoke as fifth amendment against self-incrimination, people might get frustrated but it seems wliek he is now in a place where he wants to tell it all, perhaps privilege be dammed. >> if he spills his guts, what's he got? >> well, one of the most interesting things that we have discovered from going out and discussing all this in public, his lawyer, is that the turning point for michael came when president trump was standing on the stage with vladimir putin in helsinki and sided withter them over his own intelligence officials. that's when he decided he needed to start speaking out against this president. that makes me think a lot of what he knows about the president is about his interactions with the russians in 2016. >> did he go praug? >> he's denied it. and so i