the press to pursue and unfedered. an unfedered press. the need for reporters to be in an unfederded way pursue journalism, pursue in an enfederde way journalism and be unfedered in that pursuit. >> there is something under rated about being federed. you went to a club for four hours and we were federed. >> i don't think you are trying to understand what he is trying to say. we have to have an unfedered press. if there are birds in the press room, it goes against the foundations of journalism. can you imagine the poop alone? jay he is right. we need an unfeathered press. >> it would put the white in the white house in a bad way. >> now that that is out of the way, here is how -- i don't know if this is a scandal or not. it can be a scand, like half a scandal. the left should be going nuts over this. they are supposed to go nuts on any strap pelling of first -- trampling on the first amendment. and the libertarians are in that way. i can't go nuts because i feel like it is hipocritical because i like the patriot act. so maybe i am a weird

purdue investigative journalism and be unfedered in that pursuit. >> unfedered, got that. can a leak investigation justify and as scandal coverage, is the press turning on the president? >>> plus, angelina jolie reveals she underwent a double mastectomy. we'll talk to a journalist who just had that story and why she decided to share the details with the world. i'm howard kurtz and this is "reliable sources." >>> this administration is hardly the first to go after reporters sources, although the obama justice department has been particularly aggressive about it. but the way in which federal prosecutors secretly went after the ap obtaining phone records policiy involving more than 100 journalists is sweeping, almost stunning in its scope. eric holder saying he recused himself of the case, but it infuriated the media establishment. >> totally inexcusable. the object of it is to intimidate people who talk to reporters. >> the administration is not violating the first amendment, but they are certainly doing more than has ever been done before in pursuing the private information