state farm. >>> this is flo unger. and she was a student from 1975 to 1978. >> the tragic death of florence unger, the mother of two young children, was a shock to coworkers, friends, and family. >> unless you've lived through it, it's very difficult to explain. you feel like your head's going to explode. it's total and complete devastation. there's nothing like it. it's unimaginable. >> police at the scene had to consider every possibility. >> do you have a suicide? do you have an accident? or do you have a homicide? >> florence's family ruled out suicide as a possibility. >> there's no way that she could have contemplated suicide for a number of reasons. number one, she would have never left her children parentless. >> an accident seemed like a distinct possibility. the railing on the deck outside the ungers' cabin was freshly broken. it looked as if she were sitting or leaning on it and it gave way, causing her to fall to the boat launch below. but how did the body get into the water? mark unger hired a private inde

the railing on the deck outside the ungers' cabin was freshly broken. it looked as if she were sitting or leaning on it and it gave way, causing her to fall to the boat launch below. but how did the body get into the water? mark unger hired a private independent forensic firm to find out why. they concluded that with florence falling 12 feet from the deck, the momentum of the fall carried her forward from the point of impact. >> they produced five different scenarios, computer animations that showed different ways that florence could have possibly ended up in the water. >> the forensic firm concluded that florence's death was an accident, but the medical examiner completely disagreed. >> bodies do not bounce. that's number one. she would have been rendered unconscious upon contact. an unconscious person, unconscious individual cannot just walk into the water. >> and dr. dragovic noticed the blood stain on the boat launch was nearly a foot in diameter. >> for blood to go to that size to the diameter that we're talking on the cement platform, the body wou

to rick unger's point, hobby lobby pays $15 an hour, costco pays $20 an hour. liberals argue nobody gets paid anything, but that's not true. >> john tandy, what do you think? >> sorry, rick, you can't legislate higher wages, you can and reduce job opportunities. >> keep it on food stamps. we w poor people, i think all of us do, the worst way to do it is to legislate it from washington, d.c. invariably it will be handled the wrong way in ways that harm poor people. give it to cities and states who will do a better job, much less in the way of fraud and abuse. >> hear more from bill baldwin, he will come back in an upcoming segment. stay with us, we have a hot topic coming up. >>> it is a bird, it is a plane, >>> it is a bird, it is a plane, it is a uh just gonna hang out. with gary and todd? yea. i've been meaning to ask you, is there any drinking going on in this crowd? no. so if any of your buddies ever pressure you to take a drink, just tell them you promised your dad you wouldn't. i'd do anything to keep you safe. ok. i will. i hope this is working. i promis

to rick unger's point, hobby lobby pays $15 an hour, costco pays $20 an hour. liberals argue nobody gets paid anything, but that's not true. >> john tandy, what do you think? >> sorry, rick, you can't legislate higher wages, you can and reduce job opportunities. >> keep it on food stamps. >> i think if we want to help poor people, i think all of us do, the worst way to do it is to legislate it from washington, d.c. invariably it will be handled the wrong way in ways that harm poor people. give it to cities and states who will do a better job, much less in the way of fraud and abuse. >> hear more from bill baldwin, he will come back in an upcoming segment. stay with us, we have a hot topic coming up. >>> it is a bird, it is a plane, it is a drone. are government regulations allowing these kind putting us all at risk? claim-free rewards from allstate. your home protects you, protect it back. your home protects you, ahhh! what is it? there are no marshmallows in this box of lucky charms! huh... weird... seriously? what? they're magically delicious >>> live from am

along with rick unger and john tandy. rich, had the administration's policies made the world safer? i will say that aid and trade as practiced by since every administration has been good for global peace, globally speaking. we have not had a world war since the 1940s. what preceded was a global trade war. i personally like to see more trade. i don't think the obama administration can take credit for this. >> let's talk specifically about aid to the palestinian authority which has awarded over $44 million with $440 million pending. the authority allowed into their organization hamas, which is a terrorist organization. they plant weapons and store their weapons in u.n. schools. these are bad people. should we be giving money that has them in their fold? >> in a word, no. this would be the key example of where aid is way out of line. i think you have to be a little bit careful when trying to apply that to every situation arnold the world. there are places where our aid does increase the peace but no. in a situation where a terrorist organization has partnered with the authority, we sho

. >> others i am told turned it down, unger turned it down. >> that is depressing. >> you have to hope someone will fix it, you can't just write it off, i don't know if ha presidet has the power to make those promises it is between president and congress, but i tell you what between those two they should make sure he has power, and i'll be first to stand up again union in a year instance, and say let this guy do what he has to do. >> you think that president obama at-this-point in his career with v.a., staring him in case, and midterm will give mcdonald free rein. >> what does that have to do --? >> not your typical choice. >> republicans gave money to mitt romney in last election, noteed critic of president, and his administrative ability, and a guy who you know in end controversy over multiple boards, and his attention distracted maybe not as bad. >> i think some of us here always feel an obligation to turn this on obama. neil: she is eye a hater. >> vietnam and world war ii were obama's fault. >> we all. >> we're not getting enough done. >> i agree. >> you know, it is look, i'm sayi

unger. he end kurnled me to work hard.room and ultimately went on to have success that was as great as some of the baseball things i've been able to accomplish. >> you are a pretty successful businessman at the time too right. thomas -- >> the math helps. >> yes, it does. thomas, congratulations to you. i know you are an english and latin teacher. but you also teach evening classes at a community college, you teach bible studies as well. what do you love so much about teaching? >> it's a calling, i think, and i think it's one of my gifts, the fact that i can work with people and teach them something, whether how to write a paper, speak a different language or a different kind of still, i love interacting with people, that's one of my gifts is being able to communicate with people either as a group or one on one and let them take away something, something they weren't able to take away from before. >> you also coach your son's baseball team. where do you find the time? >> yes, yes. when i find the time? very little sleep. i

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